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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 06:07 PM
hello all, this is a temporary server to discuss moderation of the new sub.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 06:08 PM
Joined the server.
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 06:08 PM
Joined the server.
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DELTA 27-Jan-22 06:09 PM
Joined the server.
So, should I add [REDACTED LIST], etc., here?
Actually, I don't know if I have permissions.
Found the link from above.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 06:10 PM
it will be basic af right now just to have a space to speak. we will build it in the future, but there is a time crunch to get the sub moderated as soon as possible to avoid the reddit admins taking the sub down because of it overwhelming amount of hateful and outrageous posts
and yes
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 06:19 PM
Joined the server.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 06:32 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" is https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/moderator-toolbox-for-red/jhjpjhhkcbkmgdkahnckfboefnkgghpo?hl=en Moderator Toolbox still what you'd recommend?
A set of tools to be used by moderators on reddit in order to make their jobs easier.
Did you have an up-to-date guide for getting it configured correctly?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 06:33 PM
100%
yes to both
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 06:44 PM
Joined the server.
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Joined the server.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 06:45 PM
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DELTA 27-Jan-22 06:50 PM
Welcome!
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 06:50 PM
Hello there
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[REDACTED: Someone joined on the wrong account] 27-Jan-22 06:54 PM
Joined the server.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 06:56 PM
Joined the server.
Hello all!
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 06:58 PM
Can we get a channel going for moderation discussion?
I'm going to start running through the modqueue. I'm sure I'll find cases that are worth discussing & aligning on as a team.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:00 PM
Make sure to use the "ignore reports" function for anything you approve. You can use Mod Tools to auto-ignore anything you approve to save you a few clicks.
It's really annoying to action the same comment 47 times
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:04 PM
Could someone kick the offline [REDACTED], accidently made a new account by mistake when joining, thank you. Not sure how to. (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:06 PM
On your alt leave the server
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:07 PM
Until we get an established group of mods, any posts that hit that AutoMod condition should just be removed instead of filtered. Once we get enough mods to keep up on the mod queue, we can change them back to filtered.
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On your alt leave the server
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:08 PM
I don't think I have access to that account anymore. I'll figure it out later though
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:11 PM
Comments that mention [REDACTED] should just be immediately deleted, not filtered. We don't want anyone to say that someone is being "doxxed" even if they are now a public figure.
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:11 PM
Yes
Antiwork bashing, and [REDACTED] bashing deleted instantely
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:11 PM
Silently deleting these comments will be much more effective and will limit the # of things in the mod queue
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 07:12 PM
hey [GAMMA] when you get a minute [REDACTED. tldr 'LET ME KNOW']
also, can we all change our discord names to our reddit usernames to avoid confusion, the pace we arfe going will require some streamlining
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:12 PM
Howdy all. I'm [REDACTED, PII] πŸ‘‹. Good to meet ya.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 07:13 PM
we can do fun nicknames down the road lol
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:13 PM
I can add [REDACTED] to automod
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 07:13 PM
you know we could just add her as the top mod and watch the entire internet be set ablze /s
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:14 PM
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Something to keep in mind: lots of people are going to have lots of opinions and want to talk about them. We are pivoting to focusing on the purpose of the subreddit. Remove meta discussion posts. It may be painful to see some of them calling us out over it, but trust that those posts will eventually slow and stop.
This is a dramatic situation, and redditors love that drama
Also, do not reply to direct messages. Direct people to send modmail.
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Something to keep in mind: lots of people are going to have lots of opinions and want to talk about them. We are pivoting to focusing on the purpose of the subreddit. Remove meta discussion posts. It may be painful to see some of them calling us out over it, but trust that those posts will eventually slow and stop.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:21 PM
Grit and being objective-oriented is very important. The subreddit is not about anger toward one or two random mods - that anger will not matter in a week or two. The subreddit is about a movement and what real people feel against a very real world.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:21 PM
Should we lock old posts that get removed?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:21 PM
Generally a good idea.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:22 PM
So if you want the subreddit to last, it needs to hone-in on that identity. If it fixates on random mods it's going to fizzle out in a week.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:26 PM
Joined the server.
Sup fam
Sorry for the late entrance
Everyone saw the most recent message from the admins?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:28 PM
Yes
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:29 PM
Neat
... who all here is from [BERNIE_SUB]? I only recognize "Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" I think
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:30 PM
Recent message from the admins, do you mean the bot ? If no can you please link it
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:31 PM
It was a message linking to the mod mail where [REDACTED ADMIN] had messaged us a day ago
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It was a message linking to the mod mail where [REDACTED ADMIN] had messaged us a day ago
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:31 PM
Thanks, I'll read it right now
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:31 PM
HEY ["It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic"]! ❀️
"On your orders. That will be easy." hey I pulled this: https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]/[REDACTED]/
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let's avoid meta discussion
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:32 PM
works for me
partydoge 2
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:32 PM
Fuck yeah, ["It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic"] and ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] back together again lmao
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:32 PM
the ol' crew
kickin ass for the workin class
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:34 PM
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:35 PM
I'm just going to archive any mod requests, the mods that can approve these requests can manually search for them in the archived posts so we can keep that clear of clutter.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:35 PM
A clear mod queue is a happy mod queue
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:35 PM
A clear mod mail is even better
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:36 PM
Everything is gonna come up Milhouse
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:36 PM
I suggest all of you use a comment deleter program to delete comments about yourselves in specific subreddits
This sub is going to be the attention of all of reddit, best be prepared.
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:36 PM
What does it do exactly ?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:36 PM
A Reddit script which deletes your own comments/posts from a specific subreddit - GitHub - PranavMahesh1/reddit-user-comment-deleter-by-subreddit: A Reddit script which deletes your own comments/po...
It edits your comment, then deletes it.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:37 PM
If you'd prefer, and head mods are OK with it, it might be easier to just create an alt account
Personally I don't care about people snooping through my feed though.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:37 PM
I'd rather use an established account so that way we don't run into an issue of people believing they are puppet accounts
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:37 PM
Bold of you to assume that all the mods on OnGuardForThee aren't already a bunch of paranoid motherfuckers lmao. Metacanada wasn't a cake walk
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:38 PM
Personally there are pros and cons, I wish I had the insight of creating a alt account as [REDACTED, PII]
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:39 PM
True and adding an alt account now would just draw suspicion
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:39 PM
No alts
Nothing funky
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:39 PM
200%
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:39 PM
Community has laser sights on everything we do
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:40 PM
Yeah I agree given today's drama.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:40 PM
Gotta be totally above board
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:40 PM
Given that they already noticed fake mods being added to the other sub, we can't use any alts
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:40 PM
Agreed
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:41 PM
Don't be pressed to answer questions. Don't approve posts that are critical of or scrutinizing members of the modteam.
We are content focused right now
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 07:41 PM
ive used reddit nukers in the oast but the issue is if you dont dio it frequently it only gets the last 1000
sadly i hvae too many ones archived
ill be back in 15ish
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:45 PM
Everyone should also keep in mind it's really easy to find deleted comments on a particular user, nothing is ever deleted from the internet.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 07:45 PM
thats why they change them before deleting
the nukers
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:45 PM
It takes a little longer now because they rate-limit you for editing comments now.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:46 PM
Things like https://camas.github.io/reddit-search/ don't record edits, you can still find deleted comments
So if this is going to be your moderator account, it should be kept that way to protect your own privacy.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:47 PM
+1
I would also recommend that no one here interacts anywhere else on reddit for the time being
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:47 PM
The majority of people just look at your profile to find something, so at least that will be a factor
if they can't find it there, most people don't go deeper
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The majority of people just look at your profile to find something, so at least that will be a factor
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 07:48 PM
That's true, only the most tenacious will browse deleted stuff.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:48 PM
I have removed https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]/[REDACTED]/ It would be nice if there were a post I could point at explaining why moving on from the drama and refocusing is the best thing the community can do right now.
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Maybe even a short wiki quip
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:48 PM
we just need to be agile right now. Move quickly.
We can explain things later
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:48 PM
Yes I'm planning to post something
If you guys want to write some scripts or input feel free for sure
or we can all write it together
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:49 PM
Yes. If we can brainstorm a simple one-liner right now I think that will go a long way.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:49 PM
Yep, a nice "this is /r/W.rk.R.frm, not /r/saltedhash1625329382" and we need to limit any meta conversation about either subs and focus on being the [LABOR] reform sub
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:49 PM
We can even allude to GAMMA having a proper explaanation coming soon. We can keep things short in the meantime. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:49 PM
I think let's avoid that for now
announcement comes when it comes
we don't want to stimulate imaginations too much
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:50 PM
OK. And have we configured submission to require approval before they're shown?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:50 PM
Yes
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:50 PM
That would simplify this very much. Not showing content is easier than removing
Sweet πŸ™‚
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:50 PM
First thing I did
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:50 PM
Good good good
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:50 PM
All posts are approve-only
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
We got this
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
Only approve on-topic stuff. Kill the meta posts and speculation
Kill anything about anti-work or [REDACTED]
Protect your fellow moderators from excessive scrutiny
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
That is the plan
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
I was scared af when I first joined up, but we in good hands
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
πŸ‘
We got this, y'all are rockstars.
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
Also delete anything regarding some posts about our personal lives, that is very important for me
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
Should the modlog be public or private?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:51 PM
private
reveal nothing about our internals
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:52 PM
Private because if you make it public people will automatically assume the worst
We should also just essentially shadow-delete comments. We should not bring attention to deleted comments. If you remove a comment, leave it at that.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:53 PM
no removal reasons, yes
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:53 PM
Definitely have the report harassment link saved so if we get modmails or people evading bans, we can forward them directly to the admins for them to handle.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 27-Jan-22 07:53 PM
I hate to do this, but I have [REDACTED, PII]. If anyone sees anything super glaring in my Reddit history that needs to go, please flag it and I shall take it down
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:54 PM
Awesome. OK I think it's great we have discussions to align on these points so we act organized. If anyone reads the messages late and wants to chime in please do so without feeling pressure.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:58 PM
Revising my staince: meta posts that are like "HELL YEAH [LABOR] reform" and are super upbeat and positive should be approved
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:58 PM
I think this is OK becauase it is focused on building our community https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]/[REDACTED]/ even though it refers to antiwork
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 07:58 PM
haha exactly what I was just referencing
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:59 PM
That "[REDACTED: OPPOSITION SUB]" sub needs to be auto-deleted
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 07:59 PM
Why?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 07:59 PM
Because it's a tankie sub
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:00 PM
I just did a silent removal on [REDACTED]'s departure message. Just stoking flames now.
users can still engage with it, didn't lock it
but it's off the front page
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I just did a silent removal on [REDACTED]'s departure message. Just stoking flames now.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:00 PM
Good. 99% of people won't know who he is. It's just more random mod drama.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:00 PM
bingo
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:02 PM
Are we OK with banning trolls? Or do we prefer to just remove and wait to see if they become real contributors?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:02 PM
May as well permanently ban them now, we can overturn it later if we have a reason to do so
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:02 PM
use the banhammer sparingly
at this stage
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:03 PM
I'm afraid the banhammer can be weaponized against us
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:03 PM
Yeah
We are threatened by outside forces
Other communities are gonna try to fuck with us
Give them as little as you can to work with
this kind of thing is not great
For better or worse, we're the mods
Don't need the community vetting us
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:04 PM
People care way too much about who is modding rather than the content of the subreddit
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:04 PM
We need a strategy to address it transparently
But it doesn't have to be now
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:04 PM
Good thing the subreddit has mods apparently
We don't need to address it
We don't need to address anything
The temptation is there, but mods should be light touch especially right now
I gotta boot scoot for a bit. God speed y'all. Hold the line.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 08:05 PM
im back
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:08 PM
Joined the server.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:08 PM
LOL hi "Not Us, Me"
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:08 PM
i am ready to fuck some shit up
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 08:08 PM
Need a quick clarification, for now what are permanent bans being used for?
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:09 PM
Also, good to be here. Thank you for adding me, and for being brave enough to launch a new, high-profile venture that squarely takes aim at the abusive ruling class.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:09 PM
I am permanently banning anyone who is transphobic/homophobic and stuff like that.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 08:10 PM
if nayone wants to hop in vc im here
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:10 PM
It's best to shadow delete comments right now
w/o banning, unless they are violating the rules of reddit or basic flaming/trolling rules
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:10 PM
Taking a heavy ban hammer right now is fine, I think. The subreddit is guaranteed to be swarming with bad actors.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:10 PM
As ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] said, it's better to just silently remove comments rather than ban people
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:12 PM
Be careful with bans
Sparing use
They can run to other subs and create problems from outside
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:13 PM
Is there a way to soft-ban people without giving them a notification? E.g. mark people as approve-only?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:13 PM
Only way to do that is with automod conditions
if they have commented in the sub, they will receive a notification if they are banned
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Is there a way to soft-ban people without giving them a notification? E.g. mark people as approve-only?
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:14 PM
probably via automod and specific username identification, but that seems like it would create a lot of mod work
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As ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] said, it's better to just silently remove comments rather than ban people
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 08:15 PM
You can shadow ban users using automod, that way they're not banned, but any content they comment/post will be removed automatically each time they attempt to interact
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 08:15 PM
lol
therapist
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 08:15 PM
I don't have those permissions I think, so someone could do that (edited)
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:15 PM
When running a super-hot subreddit, I have found it best to take solutions that protect moderator time/attention/sanity
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IDK what folks preferred browsers are, but this extension is helpful
Especially because you can leave "modnotes" on users that are only visible to mods. e.g. "Likely troll"... then if someone sees a bad comment later and some other mod has noted they're a likely troll... :banhammer:
just as a long-term note, IDK if this helps much during current huge traffic surge
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"A pretty chill dude" 27-Jan-22 08:23 PM
Joined the server.
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Joined the server.
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"A pretty chill dude" 27-Jan-22 08:23 PM
h i there
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:25 PM
We should probably focus on putting a message out within the next 24 hours about what our goal for the subreddit is and an introduction for all the moderators that are willing
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Would be a great way to also assign mod roles so we know who is responsible for what
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:27 PM
["Not Us, Me"] and I can work on a mod application
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We should probably focus on putting a message out within the next 24 hours about what our goal for the subreddit is and an introduction for all the moderators that are willing
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:27 PM
What we believe The future we are fighting for How we will make that future happen
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What we believe The future we are fighting for How we will make that future happen
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:27 PM
Emphasis: We, the community.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:27 PM
Yeah, a clean mod application for people to apply would be great. Remove the requirement for people to be mods of communities of 10K+ but definitely keep a karma/age requirement
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:28 PM
The more we make this about the community and not us (we aren't wannabe superstars, we shouldn't be in the spotlight), the better.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 08:28 PM
Don't need an official req. We can sort that out when vetting users
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:29 PM
I agree with not saying anything about any of the mods, but there are people out there that care way too much about what mods work where or whatever
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 08:29 PM
["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"] that was definately one of the first things we spoke of
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:29 PM
Yeah, it 100% makes sense to emphasize "This is a community-led movement"
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 08:29 PM
im not opposed to doing a meet the mods way down the road but anything right now is just asking for conflation
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 08:29 PM
I also strongly believe its the most effective way to create change
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 08:29 PM
I definitely agree
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I agree with not saying anything about any of the mods, but there are people out there that care way too much about what mods work where or whatever
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 08:30 PM
In the short term, the focus on mods is because of virality and drama. In the long run I think more transparency is always better, but now is not necessarily the time.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 08:30 PM
they are thirsty
if you guys would like to introduce one another hop in le chat chenal
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"A pretty chill dude" 27-Jan-22 08:31 PM
everyone is riled up for sure, I can't say I blame them. what with the interview(s). but a cool down period is a must or it'll be nuclear meltdown
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 09:01 PM
Who is "[REDACTED: TEMP MOD]"?
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 09:05 PM
Wooo, mod que is all clear
nice 2
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 09:06 PM
we basically have to refresh it constantly because there are reports and new comments every second
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SIGMA 27-Jan-22 09:08 PM
Joined the server.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 09:09 PM
Welcome!
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SIGMA 27-Jan-22 09:09 PM
hey
thanks guys for all the work you been doing tonight
really appreciate the gesture
take care of that one
its too important not to
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 09:31 PM
Who can create Discord channels? [BERNIE_SUB] had a good structure. I'd like ones for #moderation and #technology.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 09:31 PM
i can, if your willing to hop in the chat for a minute we can do it up
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 09:31 PM
I'll join y'all
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 09:37 PM
Are we going to refine Automod RegEx?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 09:45 PM
Let's not stoke the flames on the subreddit.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 09:45 PM
That's why I asked earlier who that was
They're doing a terrible job at [REDACTED: MOD INFO]
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 09:46 PM
At minimum let's get everyone in the discord so we can align on expectations.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 09:49 PM
Hi!
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:00 PM
What's our plan for late-night moderation? Are we all in the US? If we're not moderating at 3am will we run into issues with admins?
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 10:01 PM
yeah thats definatelyt part of what were flitering through in the applications is timezones, so far we have east and west coast and a few invites going out to central time
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:04 PM
automod is catching a lot
we can probably filter some key words
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:04 PM
We need to just straight delete certain keywords instead of them being filtered. It's just more stuff we have to go thru in mod queue
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:05 PM
we can switch filtered to removed
I have no qualms with this
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:05 PM
I think a significant number of catches are false positives.
So I am against removal in the general case until we can fix the filter (edited)
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:05 PM
Anything mentioning [REDACTED] or /r/saltedhash1625329382 should be deleted straight up
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:05 PM
yes
agree
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:05 PM
or "[REDACTED]" or things like that
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"A Succulent Peyote" 27-Jan-22 10:05 PM
Agree, too many false positives with a basic regex currently
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:06 PM
what else
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:07 PM
anything transphobic, racial slurs, etc should be auto-delete as well
"retard" "tranny" etc
obviously the n word
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I don't think the mod's job history is relevant, so that can be deleted by default imo
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:08 PM
I've switched our hate speech filter to remove
all that should be covered
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:16 PM
I think the switch to remove is helping a bit
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:16 PM
Yes, queue is near zero now.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:20 PM
You have to be careful with your comments
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:20 PM
It's going to be a wild ride. Best to figure things out earlier than later πŸ™‚
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:21 PM
All good! We're learning.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:24 PM
Reddit has 430 monthly active users. If even 0.001% dislike you, that's 4,300 people.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:25 PM
let the haters do their job
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 10:41 PM
anyone have a link to this post?
u/saltedhash794653252 β€’ 4 minutes ago Quote Report Hello, I would like to inquire why my post titled "From Online To Offline: The Case For WorkReforms Support For The DSA" was immediately locked and removed from the subreddit. To my knowledge it is directly related to the topic of addressing the issues of "Fair wages, unions, work/life balance, being treated with respect" in the workplace. It was a recommendation to be democratically considered by members of the subreddit for the mods to then consider. I can not see why this post violated this rule or any other rule.]
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:41 PM
["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] removed it
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:41 PM
"Come with me if you want to live" go to the sub, click moderation log, scroll down and search "from online"
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:41 PM
feel free to reapprove if you feel strongly for it
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:41 PM
and you'll be able to find the post in the future on your own.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 10:42 PM
cool i just hadnt read it,
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:42 PM
I just know we talked about steering away from politics as much as we can at this stage
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:49 PM
450k subs
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:52 PM
my other sub has [REDACTED, PII: SUCH WOW SUB COUNT]
antiwork had about [REDACTED, PII: SUCH WOW SUB COUNT]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:54 PM
antiwork looks to have cleaned itself up and is trying to move on
subs are ticking up again
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:55 PM
That's fine because now the movement isn't solely in one spot
it's non-centralized now
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 10:56 PM
hey guys, i got in contact with one of if not the head mod of r/saltedhash1220040819, i have a quick call with them in the morning and were looking to set up a group call in the coming week/weekend
ill, keep you guys updated as soon as possible to be able to schedule it correctly
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 11:11 PM
Are we set to approve only?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:11 PM
Yes.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:12 PM
Post approving guidelines are (currently): βœ… on topic content βœ… positive posts about [LABOR]reform ❌ meta posts ❌ posts that call out mods/mod actions ❌ divisive posts ❌ anything about the antiwork situation (edited)
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 11:15 PM
That all sounds good. Nitpick: I think "meta" post can fall under category of positive posts about [LABOR] reform πŸ‘
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 11:39 PM
Thank you all. without you this wouldn't have been possible. we are going to change peoples lives for the better. ive got to hit the hay, ill be in touch in the morning
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GAMMA 28-Jan-22 12:11 AM
Folks, I have received numerous invites for quotes, interviews and just plain explanation from multiple media sources ( media outlets, internet talk shows, podcasts and articles). Please do not in any way accept these kind of invitations should they come to you, please don't quotes to these media outlets, all information they need will be in the subreddit sidebar/info. This is very important and I intend to be strict on that.
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GAMMA 28-Jan-22 12:11 AM
Pinned a message.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 12:18 AM
Haven't received any messages
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:21 AM
morning
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:56 AM
can we uh... can we please get a music channel here maybe?
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 04:49 AM
going sicko mode on the mod queue, I tried cleaning it out to the best of my ability, the stuff I've left mainly needs a second set of eyes, since I wasn't comfortable making a judgement call on them
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 05:19 AM
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 05:53 AM
I just cleared all pending posts in modqueur, but comments need covered
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 05:54 AM
good, good. working on comments as best I can
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 06:09 AM
comments queue is now down to a manageable size
I think there might be some threads worth locking, but again, I didn't feel comfortable making a judgement call in the moment
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 06:38 AM
I have never been so happy to see this kitty in my life
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 07:07 AM
it's just me approving new posts... I literally can't do this all day lol
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"A pretty chill dude" 28-Jan-22 07:15 AM
appreciate the help. I will be at work all day, I'll hop on my laptop after. I wouldn't expect the mod queue to ever be empty lol
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 07:18 AM
this is gonna be fun lol I think we would benefit from an FAQ post soonish, because I am seeing a lot of "[REDACTED, BULLSHIT, WE DID IT REDDIT]" types of comments and culture war divisive BS
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it's just me approving new posts... I literally can't do this all day lol
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 07:29 AM
You can always walk off for a few hours. Put your own mental health first. Subreddit will keep chugging and everything will sort out. If you burn out, thats worst case scrnario
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this is gonna be fun lol I think we would benefit from an FAQ post soonish, because I am seeing a lot of "[REDACTED, BULLSHIT, WE DID IT REDDIT]" types of comments and culture war divisive BS
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 07:29 AM
Remove all mod attacks, imo
Its off topic and just a way to wreck a commmnity
Prioritizing mod time, stress, and mental health is an essential key to success
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 07:36 AM
yeh, I am so glad I'm going to a cabin in the middle of the woods for the weekend, this could not have been planned better. And I have therapy appointments booked out the wazoo for next week as well
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yeh, I am so glad I'm going to a cabin in the middle of the woods for the weekend, this could not have been planned better. And I have therapy appointments booked out the wazoo for next week as well
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 08:03 AM
Hell yes. I need a [REDACTED, PII: VACATION]
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 08:11 AM
I have to run an errand but later im going to take a pass at a short manifesto style doc like i mentioned last nite (edited)
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:12 AM
nice
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this is gonna be fun lol I think we would benefit from an FAQ post soonish, because I am seeing a lot of "[REDACTED, BULLSHIT, WE DID IT REDDIT]" types of comments and culture war divisive BS
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GAMMA 28-Jan-22 08:29 AM
Yes obviously I am no [REDACTED, PII], FAQ is in the plans . We will discuss as when it would be q good time for it. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:37 AM
It's been my experience that the more you push back on accusations, the more accusations come. It oxygenates the issue at hand. The people who show up and try to sow uncertainty by targeting a subreddit's all volunteer mod team may think that they are acting in good faith but would probably never be good contributors to the community. Seen this play out countless times. If you ignore it, it'll eventually cease - or at least be reduced to only a slight nuisance.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:39 AM
ayy we hit SRD
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:58 AM
after thinking it over, I think this might be unsustainable for me, with balancing [REDACTED, PII, BUSY LIFE]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:59 AM
"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" totally get it
this is a tall order right now
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 09:00 AM
for sure. what would be the best way for me to step back optically without contributing to the shitshow
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:01 AM
I would say do so quietly. We can handle tamping down on drama and speculation. We'll do our best to keep the community from hounding you
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 09:02 AM
alright, thanks. I'll stick around here for the time being, just until things are in the clear, but will quietly remove myself from the sub if that's cool
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 09:03 AM
I guess, but I already know grad school is gonna ramp up for me, and sick family members aren't getting better, so it's best if I leave
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 09:04 AM
I kinda let the adrenaline get the best of me in the moment, and I do apologize
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 09:57 AM
Hey all, im at work up [REDACTED, PII], and will be up here until a little bit later. sorry to to be in touch with you guys up until this point today great talks last night and great work.
when i get back to my place tonight i have a call with the [REDACTED, HEAD OF GOOD SUB] just to say hey and we plan to have a group call in the. oming days with our mods and their mods to talk about how we align and can benefit one another.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 10:01 AM
nice, nice. also, feel free to boot me from here whenever y'all fell confident all loose ends are wrapped up. If I'm still here by monday, I think it'll be safe for me to go.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:01 AM
all good ["It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic"], thank you for your contribution
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 10:02 AM
thanks, happy to have helped
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:02 AM
you were a huge help, we're over the first hurdle!
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 10:02 AM
nice πŸ™‚
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:03 AM
soak up the love y'all
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:20 AM
I think we have enough posts about/from conservatives
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:21 AM
Am also apprehensive about all the polls
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:22 AM
I'm sure outside forces would love the data
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:02 AM
Thanks for all the help!
antiwork pulled the link attacking r/W.rk.R.frm from its sidebar
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:04 AM
The drama growth will eventually slow down and that's probably fine
Then begins the long-haul
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 11:08 AM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" are you currently in the modqueue?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:08 AM
jumping in and out
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 11:08 AM
yeah crossing some wires
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:09 AM
I'll step out if you're on it
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 11:09 AM
im gonna work on some other shit, but ill check back in p soon
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:08 PM
I just posted and pinned this, in order to provide some general topical guidance/tone for the community
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:08 PM
Awesome
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:09 PM
I think that's good.
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:12 PM
There is no doubt in my mind we can use our momentum to drive more waves of organizing.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:12 PM
Thoughts on automoderator-sticked "Join /r/W.rk.R.frm" posts? Too early?
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Thoughts on automoderator-sticked "Join /r/W.rk.R.frm" posts? Too early?
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:12 PM
No way, go for it
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:12 PM
let's try to do it manually
custom pins
lock your pins also
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:12 PM
Do I have permission to pin things? Maybe the UI changed.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:13 PM
if you don't, lmk and I'll sticky things
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:13 PM
Where is it
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:13 PM
Distinguish
click that button
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:13 PM
Ah I see, "yes & sticky".
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:13 PM
then it will prob offer "distinguish and ..." yes
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:13 PM
FYI for anyone else
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:14 PM
I just did one in our top post (edited)
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:14 PM
EVERYBODY DANCE NOW
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:14 PM
https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED, PII] "Not Us, Me" turn this into a CTA to subscribe
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you got that juicy top comment spot bb
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:19 PM
πŸ”¨ = "Action Completed", btw, everyone
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:57 PM
Gonna share a google doc with comment access turnt on with a thing we can sticky (title "What is [LABOR] reform?") -- gonna have a draft done soon then looking for comments. Shoot me yr email addy if you want access. It's short and I'm gonna do another pass, then take my dog hiking for an hour while folks take a look, then ill do a final pass if everyone is basically good with it. WIll provide guidance to community (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:57 PM
"Not Us, Me" wooohooo! I'm excited to jump in
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 12:57 PM
I think its good to keep it brief
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 01:04 PM
Taking the dog out now, will check back in when I get back
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"A pretty chill dude" 28-Jan-22 01:55 PM
so I'm still working, haven't slowed down at all today but I will be around after and plan to sit and look over the sub etc. I don't know if anyone would be interested in helping with it but I was considering [REDACTED] for [LABOR] reform. it's the [REDACTED, PII] and it would be really easy to post. I'm not sure how others feel about this and my bad if it's been discussed and I missed it.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:04 PM
FWIW I think the best outcome of [LABOR]reform/Antiwork/WorkersStrikeBack/etc are that they spawn a million small local chapters and a few thousand thought leaders. My point being, there's a bit of a "not me, us" sort of thing here. We don't need to centralize control to ourselves, and I think doing so should be antithetical to our beliefs (I don't think it's even possible). This is different than a political campaign to me, where there is an end in sight and centralized leadership makes sense.
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So when people ask "okay how do we know X sub's moderators aren't corrupted" the answer is simple to me: you don't. So go make another sub. Just don't stir drama here. I really don't see the problem. Frankly, we're all here for that same reason (we didn't trust Antiwork), and I think that's fair. Put another way, my hope is that someone like MLK wouldn't go "okay, don't like AOC's twitter page. Like mine instead and unlike hers!". Makes no sense.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:11 PM
Strategically I think it is unwise to tell someone who's mad at us or skeptical about the mod team to create their own community
but yes to empowering individuals
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:12 PM
Oh, yes. I agree, we shouldn't egg people on to screw off and go elsewhere. I'm sorry if I came across that way. I more meant to say that if people do, that's not a problem to me. And even OK if there are occasional friendly crossposts. (edited)
For example, right now [ANGRY SUBREDDITS] are quite hostile to us. It makes sense to not want cross-referencing with them.
Whereas I believe [FRIENDLY SUBREDDIT] is friendly to us, right? It makes sense to want cross-referencing with them.
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GAMMA 28-Jan-22 02:24 PM
Hello Folks, thanks for helping out. I have made the decision to give top mod to "Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" and leave the mod team. I'm planning to close my reddit accounf also. The effects on my personal live have spiraled out of control and I can't take anymore death threats
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:27 PM
I'm really sorry that this invaded your personal life
That's truly awful
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:27 PM
That sucks. I wish you the best.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:27 PM
I'm happy to take on the mantle for now
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:28 PM
Can ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] actually be granted top-mod? Or do other moderators need to get kicked and readded so he's first in the list?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:28 PM
There'll be some modlist rearranging.
All temporary, everyone will be invited back obviously
y'all are killing it
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:30 PM
just screenshotted the current modlist order
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:31 PM
sounds like I'll need it
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 02:31 PM
i would like to stay on with ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"], if youll have me in the top mods with you guys, and im sure [DELTA] would like to stay on as well
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i apologize that im at work at the moment, will be home in a couple hours and be locked in until 2 or 3 again
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:32 PM
So there are two discussions here: Who is on the top of the list, and absolute control of the subreddit if others go rogue (because Reddit's moderation system is broken), and who has the final say in the civil discussions we're having on discord.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:34 PM
haha
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:34 PM
I'm just raising that because I want people to be informed of what the conversation means. Just FYI.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:36 PM
Ordering also matters because if ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] for some reason disappeared or were permabanned, the next person in line would take his place.
Not taking sides, just pointing out facts so people can be informed.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:36 PM
Thanks ["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"]
appreciate you clarifying
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 02:37 PM
leftist infighting and rogue shit has been a major issue with many subreddits trying to accomplish real world goals, and it is to be avoided at all costs. i know words and pledges are essentially only that, but i am in this to make a real difference and let the movement continue on its beatiful path. my life was forever altered by the positivity on r/saltedhash1625329382, and i wholeheartedly think that what is happening here in reddit is crucial to the workers movement.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 02:38 PM
How are the mod applications going?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 02:38 PM
I'd say we need at least a dozen more mods
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:38 PM
I'd prefer we slowly add them though. If we added 12 more today it'd be incredibly hectic.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 02:39 PM
i havent had time today to go theough them but a larger part of the time i have tonight i will soend going through them and would like to hop on a call with you guys to make group decisions on which applications are more appropriate
i dont mean to add several more tonight, simply to keep up with them
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GAMMA 28-Jan-22 02:40 PM
It is done, thank you for what youre doing, the only thing I ask is to nuke any post and comments about [REDACTED, PII] and also this sub needs to mvoe on from this distraction
I with you all good fortune
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:42 PM
Everyone should be readded
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I with you all good fortune
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SIGMA 28-Jan-22 02:42 PM
sigma
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DELTA 28-Jan-22 02:44 PM
Hey, so I was just talking to "Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" about a post that was removed. The user asked why, and I looked at the post and it didn't seem offensive. It did involve politics, and I was told that we are not allowing any of that. I completely agree with concentrating on the whole workers rights thing, but I've had run-ins previously with people when I said something about keeping politics out of things, and they claim that this is impossible or incompatible with the movement because it is a leftist movement and if we do not allow discussion of "politics" (for some definition of politics) we are somehow capitulating to the right. What's our response to that? (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:44 PM
We don't need to be personally responding to anything right now.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:44 PM
" Also, I understand we want the subreddit to be focused, but I think it's important to leave space for controversial discussions so long as they remain productive. They keep people coming back for critical thought and stir the melting pot. I think that's good. I think we can think of them like fuel to nuclear reactors - we just need to control how much we let in so things don't violently explode. But we also don't want nothing." i posted in #🏏moderation earlier is my opinion.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:45 PM
They'll hang with us, we're brand new
If they're here in good faith, they'll hang with us
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:45 PM
But we do not need to communicate that. And communication does nothing. It will take time.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:45 PM
I know everyone has lots of thoughts, lots of ideas
["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"] that hits me, I just watched Chernobyl for the first time
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:45 PM
This is why I emphasized yesterday: We do not need to do everything now, and it is physically impossible. Things take time. We need to pick our battles.
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But we do not need to communicate that. And communication does nothing. It will take time.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 02:45 PM
agreed
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["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"] that hits me, I just watched Chernobyl for the first time
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:46 PM
*Hits the AZ-5. Such a good miniseries.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:46 PM
God
stress binge
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 02:51 PM
working on v2 with "A Tough, Sturdy Animal" comments incorp
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 02:51 PM
will just post markdown copy in here in a few
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 02:52 PM
look for final feedback then we can throw it out
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:53 PM
I get what you're saying, I trust the people at the top currently. We can sort this so everyone's happy later on.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:54 PM
All good. There will be no team drama over modlist ordering. We're all new to each other but we're in it together. We're gonna kick some ass for the working class
No one's getting kicked, biggest point to make
Not without my input at least
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:56 PM
Doesn't matter
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:56 PM
Anyone who levels baseless accusations would likely never be a good contributor anyway
we're all vols here, we need to protect one another. Shut down insane conspiracies
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:58 PM
@here I need to [REDACTED, PII]. Remember: Don't approve meta posts that ask why things were removed, are critical of mods, negative on the community
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The only meta posts we're letting through right now are ones that are positive on the community
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Remember also: we are all volunteer moderators here. Protect one another. If you see insane comments being posted about another mod, delete them.
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Ban freely if someone is violating reddit rules
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 02:59 PM
@here im doing the same gotta head back inside. i have a date with a [REDACTED, PII]
ill be back [REDACTED, PII]
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Anyone who levels baseless accusations would likely never be a good contributor anyway
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:03 PM
Exactly. I care more about good contributors than raw subscriber numbers
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:12 PM
we have a post at #89 on r/all
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and rising
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:31 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:31 PM
This post has my support, and now would be a good time to post with us rising on r/all
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:32 PM
@everyone looking to post this in next 30ish minutes (edited)
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 03:33 PM
Definitely need to add streamlined rules to that
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:33 PM
Would rather get it right than over-rush it, but would still like to push it out.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 03:33 PM
People are getting different answers about what is allowed and what isn't
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:33 PM
As a user I'm not sure how to respond to the thread. Are we going to lock it? Or can we twist the end to start a conversation?
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:33 PM
Not locked
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:34 PM
Agree, keep it open
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Not locked
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 03:34 PM
2nd not locking, let people voice their QCC
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:34 PM
Bear in mind that just because people have concerns doesn't mean we have to address each of them
No need to wade in at this stage.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 03:36 PM
Before we post that, we need some actual guidelines that we can all follow
it will look disorganized if we all have different answers on different subjects
What are we allowing, what are we not allowing? Where's the line in the sand?
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:37 PM
To me, the post is a start to that, and an opportunity for the community to chime in before we go further on our own.
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That's why I want the outcome of the post to be clear. Right now it doesn't read like it can be responded to, maybe we just need a final sentence
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:39 PM
sorry my wifi died
basically
What do you think this community could do best to improve working conditions in our IRL communities?
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:39 PM
Which moves people to align and further flesh out what we've written. I suspect the community will largely agree with it from everything I've seen, which gives us ammo and acknowledgement to codify what are now their desires into rules.
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:39 PM
This sentence should be moved to the end.
Re rules, it takes time to do stuff and to do stuff right. This post will help begin to set the gestalt of the subreddit. Rules can come later in time,imo
Yeah, that sentence is already in there, i can just move to the end
What do you think we as a community could do best to improve working conditions in our IRL communities?
hmm too many "communities", but ill round out with a Q - good idea, ["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:42 PM
you could end the sentence at "working conditions"
What do you think we as a community could do best to improve working conditions?
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:42 PM
beautiful
literally crying
figuratively*
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:42 PM
shaking
goosebumps
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:43 PM
full eyes
clear hearts
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 03:58 PM
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:58 PM
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Super minor
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:07 PM
Great response to the pinned post so far
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:13 PM
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 04:16 PM
Second! Either you, ["Not Us, Me"] or ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] can make it, you're the only ones active right now with wiki permissions.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:17 PM
We'll make that sidebar a thing of beauty very soon
great resource ["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"]
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:19 PM
Joined the server.
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Joined the server.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:19 PM
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:20 PM
Thanks for the invite
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 04:21 PM
Welcome!
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:21 PM
Reviewing what's been discussed above
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 04:22 PM
Regarding mod que moderating
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:22 PM
Oh, neat, I can see how this sub materialized by the moderators
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:24 PM
Welcome "I'VE GOT THE POWAH".
["I'VE GOT THE POWAH"]'s a seasoned mod veteran
I'll get you a mod invite here in a sec
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:30 PM
Looks like the subreddit rules/structure got a grip real quick
Is this the opening team here? And the creator just left?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:30 PM
Top mod has departed a couple times
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:30 PM
["Come with me if you want to live"] & [DELTA] are still here though
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:30 PM
That's good, means they have good intentions for the sub
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Very kind thing to do
I can see what we're doing here already ["Not Us, Me"] and ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"]
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 04:31 PM
Yeah, I am honestly pretty impressed. Very good for community. Founder's Syndrome is literally like the number 1 thing I've seen kill a lot of promising enterprising
And we blasted thru that problem
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:32 PM
"On your orders. That will be easy." "A Succulent Peyote" and [SIDE_2] were here before us btw.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 04:33 PM
We all to be fair came on the mod team nearly at the same time yesterday
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:33 PM
Hey all, cool stuff you got here. I'm [REDACTED]. Have been on Reddit for years in [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] spheres.
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:36 PM
Joined the server.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 04:36 PM
Welcome!
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Joined the server.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 04:36 PM
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:36 PM
Hello there! I’m ["I'm just here so I won't get fined"]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:37 PM
"I'm just here so I won't get fined" is another amazing mod with tons of experience
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:38 PM
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:38 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:38 PM
wow
amazing
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:38 PM
I have tons of these things
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:38 PM
ham
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:38 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:39 PM
Wow ["I'm just here so I won't get fined"]
you really went ham
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gonna hang in that there voice chat for a while
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:47 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:47 PM
rofl
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:53 PM
"I'm just here so I won't get fined" you're always high when I'm high
How
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 04:53 PM
It’s like we have ESPN or something
I have the same phenomenon with another friend of mine. [REDACTED, PII, HOBBIES]
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 05:06 PM
response to that post is largely positive
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 05:07 PM
it's been great
phenomenal work everyone
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 28-Jan-22 05:11 PM
isaclapyay
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 05:13 PM
What are our next steps?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 05:14 PM
We're letting the pinned post marinade until tomorrow
then re-eval of rules
hold the line for now!
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 05:14 PM
I know everyone here must be exhausted. It's been a long two days.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 05:14 PM
Yes it has
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 05:24 PM
Something to be proud of: in 48 hours, r/W.rk.R.frm has been viewed 18 million times.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 05:39 PM
sweet
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 06:20 PM
haha
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 06:25 PM
been a long couple days, no doubt
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 06:48 PM
Joined the server.
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Joined the server.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 06:48 PM
Hey all. "Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" is another seasoned moderator from [BERNIE_SUB]/[PROGRESSIVE_SUB] and hands down the best [REDACTED, PII] I know
Throwing this back out there to make sure we're all same pagin' it
Tacking on: we're avoiding meta discussion about how different political ideologies fit on the subreddit. So right now, no "The right can't join" or "The right can join" type posts. And we've had enough "I'm conservative and I support [LABOR] reform" type posts. Just keeps enraging the audience
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 07:08 PM
hey all im back from work just walked in the door. let me put these groceries away, chuck a pizza in the oven, and ill get caught up. thank you again for all your hard work you really have done an amazing job. the hours you've all pulled have blown my absolute mind. if i had [REDACTED, PII] i would take some time off work to spend 18hrs a day here but as it sits i have a real shot at [REDACTED, PII]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:12 PM
I'm out for the night. See y'all on the other side.
One thing real quick before I go: add stickied comments to popular threads with a rallying cry and a call to action to subscribe to r/W.rk.R.frm. Use # to make it big like that.
These results in tons of new subscribers who are ready to do the work of [LABOR] reform
You can check r/W.rk.R.frm/rising to see what's on the upswing
And always lock your stickied comment. They tend to attract trolls if you leave replies on them open
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 07:41 PM
Why not just have AutoMod do this?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:42 PM
Rapidly loses effectiveness
Custom CTAs written by mods have better results historically
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 07:42 PM
That's fair.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:42 PM
We have had some success with fairly pointed automod stickies
but the same thing applies, they lose effectiveness quickly
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 07:49 PM
Automod won't be tailored to threads. Our comments will! :) [REDACTED, PII, HOBBIES] right now, but will catch ya later. Everyone is doing a great job and I'm proud of you. (edited)
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 07:57 PM
I can't believe I've finally become a reddit power mod https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/saltedhash1259081168/comments/[REDACTED]
[REDACTED] votes and [REDACTED] comments so far on Reddit
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:58 PM
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 07:59 PM
There might actually be some valid criticisms of the old mod team in those comments that we can use
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:04 PM
stuff like this is always merch spam
remove
Petitions are not going to be allowed right now. We don't need outsiders collecting data on our community
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stuff like this is always merch spam
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 09:09 PM
99.999% of the time. They barely try
Weird to be called powermod. Lol. Attacking the mod team is a very effective form of sabotage strategy
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:11 PM
If the shoe fits
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 09:13 PM
i mean we could make a sticker down the road, not for sale, but a sticker in open source that people can download and print that they can put on stuff. some pro-worker stuff to slap all over the world in places where working conditions are garbage. heck it would be better to make them about specific movements and unions. maybe just create a place where workers rights movements and strike organizations can upload their free sticker designs themselves, and if people feel up to doing some real world stuff, they can go print them themselves and stick them places. make a hashtag or sub or something just about pro-worker propoganda stickers lol
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i had 2 beers...
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honestly i thought the whole hacking printer recipets thing was super fucking awesome
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:03 PM
Cleared posts, comments need clearing
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 10:04 PM
antiwork peeps (not the mods) were hacking into recieipt printers talking about low pay, tipped minimum wage, the movement and it was all over the place. they hit lots and lots of places. they targeted chains so that it would affect multiple places at once.
fuggin badass if you ask me
hey so i am gonna make a post in the future seeking mods in other timezones around the world to apply so we can have better hours. a few weeks ago i was working night shifts but right now i cant as its alot of outdoor work
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:07 PM
Work with me on that. I'm taking point on recruitment
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:08 PM
I know a real solid mod located in India. I can ask if he wants in. He's a work horse and awake during our sleepy hours
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 10:08 PM
of course. doesnt even have to be a post, just that in the future that should be taken into consideration with the application
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:08 PM
100%
I'll show you the mod app I work up
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 10:09 PM
india is a great time zone actually. europe helps but still leaves a gap for us working day jobs
one in india, one around east asia or aus would be sick too. the kiwis love our movement
i will not rest until we have a mod that lives in a real hobbit house in NZ /s
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:12 PM
That's my life goal
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 10:22 PM
Do we want the subreddit to focus on American workers or more global workers?
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 10:23 PM
well, id say the issues are more dire here and in need to sooner reform, but of course we wish for better workers right across the globe
i wish to inspire other large nations to start their own movements, and will support them publicly without doubt. i think we can do both, but if our finite resources must be placed somewhere, i think it should be here first. toughts?
i wouldnt go as far to work against efforts in other places. ever. all [LABOR] reform is good,
holy fuck [REDACTED, PII, IRRELEVANT LIFE EVENT]. like right now.
brb
need to check our cars
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 10:30 PM
I think to me the answer is what's best for the community. I think international voices tend to smooth out conversations and provide perspectives to Americans, so we should explicitly welcome that. At the same time focus is important. It's highly irrelevant to Americans if we have Italian candidates being pushed for for example. Maybe those belong in WorkReformItaly for example
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Do we want the subreddit to focus on American workers or more global workers?
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:34 PM
It will naturally tilt to the USA, but open to worldwide workers is right course, imo
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 10:34 PM
So an Italian politician would be in scope?
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:34 PM
Especially given considerations you just raised + globalization
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 10:34 PM
Granted, maybe we don't need to explicitly moderate that
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:34 PM
What do you mean?
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 10:35 PM
I think upvoted and interest will handle that
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I'm asking if an Italian politician discussing worker rights and running for office in Italy would be relevant
(I have no clue how Italian politics works and am drunk btw)
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:35 PM
I would approve it and let it ride
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(I have no clue how Italian politics works and am drunk btw)
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:36 PM
I think its good most mods are having a celebratory drank or four tonight
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 12:17 AM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 09:15 AM
@here hold off on approving any new posts for 5-10ish minutes
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we have a post at the top of /new that likely has escape velocity to r/all
For context: if we let something hang at the top of /new for a bit, it tends to gain more traction. We do this regularly for things like AMAs and other important posts.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 09:17 AM
please tell me it's the bernie tweet
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 09:17 AM
It is
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 09:17 AM
fuck yes
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 09:25 AM
harder to get the high profile folks like that for amas.
AOC's subreddit is compromised too
so I kind of hope she doesn't do a reddit AMA, because she'd probably do it there
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 09:26 AM
i would like to reach out to their campaigns in an effort to have them put us in contact with real world organizations are groups that are doing the legwork for workers rights around the country. i
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 09:26 AM
Feel free to begin approving new posts again
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 09:26 AM
well, another reddit ama. she did [BERNIE_SUB] way back in the day
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 09:26 AM
before she was elected, yeah
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:58 AM
I think it needs color but is cool
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:58 AM
Maybe we should do a logo contest + community vote?
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:43 AM
The surge of interest in the new subreddit follows a storm that emerged on Wednesday after moderators for [REDACTED] made the group private.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 12:26 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" When you get the time, can you take a pass at mod permissions? Older mods can't edit the wiki for example, while newer mods have 'everything' permissions.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 01:56 PM
@everyone We are rolling out a revised rule list. 1. Play to win - all submissions must advance improvements to worker quality of life 2. Be respectful 3. No drama 4. No unauthorized self-promotion 5. Reddit’s global rules 6. No conspiracies or misinformation 7. Memes must be high quality 8. Partisan political posts are subject to greater moderator scrutiny I'm sure you know how to enforce most of these rules. For clarity: Rule 1: Play to win. Approve content that advances improvements in worker quality of life. Remove anything that doesn't. Rule 8: Partisan political posts. Mods, use your best discretion here. Politics is on topic, but be quick to remove hyper-partisan political posts. "I'm a [blank] and I think [blank]" isn't useful for building community at this time. It is only generating fighting in the community at this time. Of all our rules, this is the one I hope to eventually be able to remove, because I think that by and large these are good posts for a [LABOR]reform that is a little more calmed down than it is now. Happy to take questions.
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 01:57 PM
Just cleared all posts in queue, still comments.
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:01 PM
If we don't have anything explicitly about hate speech we're going to get slammed with "Can you state explicitly that you don't support transphobic statements? " questions. As it is, with the no "hate-speech" rule I've seen many people "demanding" we have an explicit rule against certain flavors of hate speech. I've tried the "because: duh" explanation that no reasonable person would think it's acceptable, and "no hate speech" covers it all, but that has never satisfied anyone. I would love it if we didn't need it, blocked all the assholes, and people became comfortable with that, and I hope it happens, but I just wanted to put this out there for consideration. (edited)
Also, there's nothing in there about reposts.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 02:03 PM
Rule 1 doesn't really make sense to me, since we have meme, story, and other flairs (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:03 PM
My take on hate speech: falls under be respectful. I will explicitly call it out in the written articulation of what that rule means
I can just as easily make it its own bullet too
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 02:04 PM
Hate speech can be rolled into a single category of bigotry. Most subs do it that way.
I've also been on subs that literally paraphrase the Geneva Conventions
It's much easier to stay simple and say moderators are the final arbiters of what qualifies as hate speech/disrespect. If questions come up, remove or ignore
Imho
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Rule 1 doesn't really make sense to me, since we have meme, story, and other flairs (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:05 PM
Agreed.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:06 PM
Memes, stories, other flairs are fine - they just have to all advance the purpose of the subreddit. (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:06 PM
FWIW Antiwork rules might be worth compare/contrasting:
1. No discriminatory language or actions towards others. This includes racism, sexism, transphobia, ageism, ableism. No flaming other users (insulting, name-calling, using discriminatory language). 2. No trolling. Trolling means posting inflammatory content/posts in an attempt to sow unnecessary discord in the subreddit. 3. No spam, no low-effort shitposts, no off-topic content. This includes posts begging for upvotes. Please do not post unrelated blog spam or try to sell anything for personal gain. If you've posted content (especially if it's your own), give it a few days before posting again. 4. No alt-right/fascist, authoritarian, totalitarian or incel content. Do not post/crosspost content that supports alt-right, fascist, authoritarian, totalitarian, or incel ideology 5. No calls for violence, no fetishizing violence. Do not post content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people. 6. Reposts. Any content previously posted within the last 30 days will be removed. Same goes for reposts from the subreddit's all-time top 30. 7. No politicians, no CEOs. Do not post/crosspost content that supports (former or future) political candidates and their campaigns in any way. Take it to r/saltedhash2792561228. The same goes for the posting and promotion of CEOs. We don't need bosses and managers to speak for us. 8. No sharing of personal information as it violates the Reddit ToS. 9. No text-message screenshots Text-message screenshots are currently restricted to Sunday only. Please do not post them on any other day of the week. 10. No calling-out other users or subreddits Do not leave reddit usernames visible in screenshots or links. Do not post content with the purpose of antagonizing other subreddits. created by andreaswa community for 8 ye
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My take on hate speech: falls under be respectful. I will explicitly call it out in the written articulation of what that rule means
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:06 PM
I agree with you 100% that it should be covered by "polite" or "respectful." But that level of logic is beyond many.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:06 PM
Fair point.
It is a big topic for the community currently too. It probably deserves it's own bullet point
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 02:07 PM
We should also keep in mind that we won't want to keep all memes that are posted, so leaving it more open can be better
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:07 PM
That is a good call out
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 02:07 PM
Which is why I assume the rule is written the way it is, yeah?
High quality content
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:08 PM
As far as Rule 1 goes, everything that gets approved must advance the goals of [LABOR]reform. If a post doesn't do that, don't approve it. This is just the articulation of what we've been doing.
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So obviously a post that's like "If we raise the minimum wage, that's gonna be bad 😦" isn't what we want. (edited)
"If workers get paid more won't that mean my stuff gets more expensive?"
"All these strikes will do is hurt people."
"Unions are bad though."
all examples of things that don't advance our goals
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 02:10 PM
In a way though they can still provide productive discussions that point the topic towards the right way. (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:11 PM
I'm in favor of allowing the discussions as well.
I get it's more work for moderators if flame wars break out, but healthy discussion is important.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 02:12 PM
I'm seeing similar posts/discussions like this on r/saltedhash1625329382 that are permitted.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:13 PM
Personally I don't think the subreddit should be like [BERNIE_SUB]/[PROGRESSIVE_SUB] where it takes and pushes a stance from moderators. It should be a place for community conversations to happen and these seem like natural conversations people need to have to develop their political views.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:13 PM
I am comfortable with taking a step back from the rigidness of my interpretation of rule #1. Use your discretion, but we should be open to learnings. If it seems to work, let's re-evaluate rule 1. If it's leading to a ton of flame wars, let's tighten how we enforce it.
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Be extra cautious right now, as the community is still riled up by the events of the past few days. That's all I ask.
And obviously, ax outright trolls.
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Personally I don't think the subreddit should be like [BERNIE_SUB]/[PROGRESSIVE_SUB] where it takes and pushes a stance from moderators. It should be a place for community conversations to happen and these seem like natural conversations people need to have to develop their political views.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:17 PM
That is what this is. "Not Us, Me" and I aren't here to manage discussion boards, but advance a particular agenda. Everything on [LABOR]reform will be framed through the lens of winning workers better working conditions, better wages - everything we've articulated so far. But the modteam has a vision and it will work with the community to make it real.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:17 PM
I suspect if a worker movement takes off in the US, a HUGE portion of that would happen through deprogramming of widely-held beliefs that are foundational to who people are. That's going to happen through discussion. This isn't like politics. In politics the goal AFAIK tends not to be "convert others" but instead "get your side to vote, so the other side has more people sitting on the side and you win".
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:17 PM
Discussion is great & welcome if productive, but we have our eyes set on a big prize.
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I suspect if a worker movement takes off in the US, a HUGE portion of that would happen through deprogramming of widely-held beliefs that are foundational to who people are. That's going to happen through discussion. This isn't like politics. In politics the goal AFAIK tends not to be "convert others" but instead "get your side to vote, so the other side has more people sitting on the side and you win".
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:19 PM
One of our core touchpoints running [BERNIE_SUB] for the 2020 primary was: "Every voter is one conversation away from supporting Bernie Sanders." Tacking on: Bernie going from 2% to 45% in 2016 wasn't just a voter turnout game. Lots of persuasion happened. (edited)
So I think this is like politics in a big way. To divorce it from that wouldn't be great. But I agree that room for discussion should be made, as long as the discussion is framed around advancing [LABOR] reform
Just err on the side of caution while things are still hot.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 02:31 PM
Imo focusing on labels detracts and skirts around the main topic at hand, especially since labels do not encompass the entirety of a person. They can be limiting, and dangerously generalizing when each person will hold different views and definitions from one another. It's much better to talk about our journeys and experiences instead of absolute phrases, it tells more about who a person actually is as a person without giving off the wrong impressions; labels are not always accurate in conveying our intent, but talking more about our experiences will lead to shared experiences that unify us under the common causes we're fighting for.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:32 PM
Yeah, that is a huge contributor to rule 8 being written that way. But I would love to get to a position where we can talk about who we are and why that relates to our experiences without it causing a whole big thing
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On [BERNIE_SUB]/[PROGRESSIVE_SUB], we have conservatives roll in occasionally to say they're voting for a progressive even though they're conservative. It's awesome. Community loves it. There were articles written about this phenomenon. But right now everyone is so afraid of the community being co-opted that it's just resulting in discomfort
I hope we can get over that hump
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On [BERNIE_SUB]/[PROGRESSIVE_SUB], we have conservatives roll in occasionally to say they're voting for a progressive even though they're conservative. It's awesome. Community loves it. There were articles written about this phenomenon. But right now everyone is so afraid of the community being co-opted that it's just resulting in discomfort
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 02:35 PM
Rule 8 is awesome in that way, I think people will understand as time goes by.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:37 PM
Also this is just a first iteration of our rules. "Not Us, Me" and I developed this specific list because it has done a great job of creating order elsewhere, and order is what Reddit admins have demanded. Some of these rules may be discarded or rewritten based on how we see the need to apply them to the community. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 04:46 PM
The drama mod?
Sorry [REDACTED, PII, VACATION], in and out
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 04:50 PM
Well, giveth them nothing
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 05:04 PM
Yeahhh, got to be really careful about what kind of jokes you entertain on your mod account. Some people will twist anything to fit their malicious intent. (edited)
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 05:05 PM
If you need anything removed from drama subs, I can reach out to their top mod
[REDACTED, POWERMOD] does me a lot of favors removing posts, so long as the drama is stupid
Drama, subredditdrama, any sub similar to that. They're all connected and [REDACTED, POWERMOD IS SUPER BUDDY-BUDDY WITH ME]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 05:16 PM
So my strategy for keeping myself and my fellow mods safe is really keeping my reddit presence as clean as I can. The things you say, even if they come from a good place or are innocuous, can be screenshot and posted elsewhere in a way that paints you in a bad light and makes you a target.
The more you give your haters to work with, the more they'll hate on you.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 06:22 PM
I'm not sure which rule this would fall under, but there should be one about no flaming/stirring the pot , some of these trolls don't care about politics, and purposefully only try to agitate others unnecessarily. (edited)
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Imo focusing on labels detracts and skirts around the main topic at hand, especially since labels do not encompass the entirety of a person. They can be limiting, and dangerously generalizing when each person will hold different views and definitions from one another. It's much better to talk about our journeys and experiences instead of absolute phrases, it tells more about who a person actually is as a person without giving off the wrong impressions; labels are not always accurate in conveying our intent, but talking more about our experiences will lead to shared experiences that unify us under the common causes we're fighting for.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 06:32 PM
I love the gist of this. Something like "Focus on ideas and personal journeys, not labels or drawing lines in the sand" when it comes to politics
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:39 PM
Flame wars usually fall under respect
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:46 PM
+1 to that
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 06:47 PM
hey guys i just got back
has this been brought up yet?
just finished reading it
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:51 PM
Right now, we are moving away from "I'm [ideology] and here's some thoughts" type posts
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 06:51 PM
Given their history I assume they're referring to some on-campus conservative club of sorts, or some multi-campus conservative society. In any case while I personally want everyone joining the sub. I'm unsure how we should be using flairs. They're requesting a Libertarian flair. On one hand, PCM uses them without great toxicity. On the other hand, I don't think focusing on political identity should matter for our sub. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:51 PM
So proceed with caution
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 06:52 PM
i agree that politcal flairs will just give people trying to have a discussion a preconceived notion and read comments through a different light
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:52 PM
Yeah
No on that
For now
I want to open things up to more in time but partisan politics is a no go right now
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 06:53 PM
i feel like a response could be formatted though, to let them know that the flair is the issue as to not give them a reason to do anything vindictive
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 06:53 PM
I think our reasons are sound. This is an example where I think transparency is fair.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:53 PM
If you respond, you open yourself up to drama. Just let it go for now
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 06:54 PM
ALso frankly, if you put it to community vote it's obvious the community would be way against ideology-based flairs. They make no sense.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 06:54 PM
no i meant like a dm
lol
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 06:54 PM
Just let it go for now
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Right now, we are moving away from "I'm [ideology] and here's some thoughts" type posts
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 07:28 PM
That makes sense
Lol, sooo many traps right now
Lots of folks wanna see WR fail (edited)
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 08:05 PM
Whew posts cleared
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"A pretty chill dude" 29-Jan-22 08:55 PM
have you guys seen the WorkReformbanned sub? sorry if it's been brought up. I'm always catching up
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 08:56 PM
God damn it.. That's not great to see. But it looks like mostly old posts at least. (edited)
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"A pretty chill dude" 29-Jan-22 08:58 PM
I haven't even looked at the posts. but okee
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 09:00 PM
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"A pretty chill dude" 29-Jan-22 09:02 PM
I'm definitely not arguing that lol. moreso just making people aware in case as I suspected they were going through mod post history
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 09:04 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone here actually been doxxed / chased after in the past day? I grok that happened to [REDACTED, SUB FOUNDERS] because, you know they had an "[REDACTED, BULLSHIT]" boston bomber moment. But I want to believe Reddit's mostly moved on at this point.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 09:05 PM
The more we deprive it of oxygen the faster it'll go away
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"A pretty chill dude" 29-Jan-22 09:11 PM
I haven't. by this group. I [REDACTED, PII?] so I'm not worried about it personally
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Out of curiosity, has anyone here actually been doxxed / chased after in the past day? I grok that happened to [REDACTED, SUB FOUNDERS] because, you know they had an "[REDACTED, BULLSHIT]" boston bomber moment. But I want to believe Reddit's mostly moved on at this point.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 09:34 PM
Nope, no issues personally. What about you "Not Us, Me" ? [REDACTED, IDENTIFIES USER] or "Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" ? Since they're [REDACTED].
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Out of curiosity, has anyone here actually been doxxed / chased after in the past day? I grok that happened to [REDACTED, SUB FOUNDERS] because, you know they had an "[REDACTED, BULLSHIT]" boston bomber moment. But I want to believe Reddit's mostly moved on at this point.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 09:35 PM
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 09:37 PM
and there was an automoderator on r/saltedhash1425514101 that was responding to mentio of [LABOR]reform and linking the comment where they did a deep dive
i have used reddit nuker before, and sadly it cant change the archived comments so far as i know, as they are backed up on third party stuff
itll get the last thousand, but it has to be a routine excersioze
i have all kinds of rediculous shit in my past
luckily nothing violent, just dark humor
and memes
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 09:49 PM
i dont know if its possibly to change comments once they are archived, i dont seem to have access to any of mine more than 1000 ago. maybe its possible i ill do some googlefu
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:50 PM
I'm going to bed, but are we still keeping crowd control on?
There have been no new posts for the past two hours, we can't be approving every submission like this 24/7
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:51 PM
Hmm, is your feed up-to-date?
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:52 PM
oh wait let me check
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:52 PM
I see 20 new things
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:52 PM
That's the unmoderated mod stream
If you look on the main subreddit there's nothing for the past 2 hours
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:53 PM
Oh I see what you mean.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:53 PM
All those are in the mod que removed, waiting for our approval
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:53 PM
My experience thus far has been that the community does a good job of self-moderating. I let some things slip last night and they caught them quickly, whether through downvotes or reports. (edited)
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:53 PM
Those in mod que are due to spam control, not reports, especially if we have it set to high
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:54 PM
Yes I understand. Sorry, I misinterprted your original message but I get what you're saying now. I'm in favor of auto-approving since the community does a good job of self-moderating. (edited)
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:54 PM
Generally once automod is setup, it's better to lower the spam filter strength to low.
My guess is it's set on 'high' or 'all'
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:55 PM
And yeah, like you've said. Automod is doing its work. Also, we're no longer being brigaded.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:55 PM
True
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:55 PM
I'd like to wait for a quorum of the rest of the team's opinions. (edited)
Since abuse seems to be headed toward others who might feel differently than me.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 10:56 PM
Low key I feel like that's going to make a lot of people suspicious if most of us are going to sleep soon. There haven't been a new post in the past 2+ hours, and that number will go up to 10+ by morning
I'm not even sure if the spam filter is counting comments either, or if its just posts.
I don't have permission to check, but someone else can: https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/about/edit?page=posts
r/W.rk.R.frm: r/W.rk.R.frm is a movement and a community fighting for a good and healthy quality of life for everyone who sells their labor.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:00 PM
Anyone else have opinions? I'd just like it to not be us two unilaterally making decisions for the rest of the team.
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"A pretty chill dude" 29-Jan-22 11:00 PM
on opening the flood gates? I say give it another night but that's just my two cents
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 11:03 PM
Is someone going to be approving posts all night then? None of us has approved any posts in the past 2+ hours, according to mod logs. (edited)
I'm just concerned it's going to fizzle out some of the momentum, and people may throw around more accusations of nontransparent censorship, like r/saltedhash1625329382.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:06 PM
For what it's worth, our audience is mainly north america to my knowledge. It's not the end of the world if we have silence at night time. I agree with all your concerns though and think transparency is the bigger issue. That plus we haven't recruited new mods from the community yet.
So for that reason, the risk of opening the floodgates or not seems minor to me. I get where you're coming from.
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For what it's worth, our audience is mainly north america to my knowledge. It's not the end of the world if we have silence at night time. I agree with all your concerns though and think transparency is the bigger issue. That plus we haven't recruited new mods from the community yet.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 11:08 PM
Fair points, we've got to add reasons very soon too for all the automod ones. Okay, I guess we can decide tomorrow with everyone then.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:08 PM
I was approving/disappropving til like 3am last night. Not doing that again tonight. But 90% of the posts were approves and the few disapproves would be quickly downvoted.
OK sounds good, we can wait til tomorrow.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 11:08 PM
Yeahhh that doesn't sound like fun at all 😦
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:08 PM
Oh, I can be a night owl. No problem haha. Didn't feel pressured to but thanks for your concern. It's kind. (edited)
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 11:09 PM
I'm hoping by the end of next week we have a lot more of the subreddit automated to move away from these tedious tasks, to focus more on content and community involvement.
At least for me, I'm looking into a way to run a scrip on my account to approve or remove reports as they come in. Maybe I'll find a way for the mod queue stream too
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 06:29 AM
r/saltedhash3084515684 enemies must be so mad we arent letting them shred us up on GOP vs Democrat, lol
"But this is playbook we always use!!"
On the point of deprogramming raised last night, i think somewhat forcing the convo away from that is a pretty significant piece of deprogramming for Americans
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 07:57 AM
Yeah its hard to remove stuff you agree with
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 08:58 AM
Wait, why were you removed???
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 09:01 AM
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:16 AM
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 09:22 AM
It is good to look out for each other
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:25 AM
By the sounds of it, there's a leak or possible connection [REDACTED, PII]. Kind of similar to what happened to [REDACTED: THE ORIGINAL MODS].
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 09:29 AM
This person gets it lol
That CIA sabotage manual is a great read, IMO. I read it years ago and have used it to identify a lot of bad behabior
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:33 AM
That's super interesting, can't imagine trying to do all that during the 2nd world war.
This historical document was originally published by the United States Office of Strategic Services (OSS; now the Central Intelligence Agency) in 1944....
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"Come with me if you want to live" 30-Jan-22 10:06 AM
soooooooo wtf is going on?
im at work lol. .anyone care to waste 3 minutes of their time and so a brief TLDR?
i will happily reward you by sending you one reddit silver
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:07 AM
The situation was articulated above if you scroll up a bit
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:07 AM
We're moderating a subreddit. That's about it?
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"Come with me if you want to live" 30-Jan-22 10:07 AM
which is all the coin i haves :)
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:08 AM
Oh shit yeah, i got some awards, i have coins again, i forgot
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i will happily reward you by sending you one reddit silver
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 10:10 AM
TL;DR: [REDACTED: TEMP MOD] was let go for [REDACTED].
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 10:22 AM
Seems some people don't like us leaving sticky comments on top of popular posts https://www.rexxit.cxm/message/messages/[REDACTED]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:22 AM
Oh well
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 10:23 AM
I think this is stuff we can pretty trivially put to community vote. Though actually I'm not convinced now that we've tried it for a day that it's actually getting us more subs.
Also if we want to be able to write human-tailored messaged per thread under the name of a bot (so it doesn't come across as karma farming) that's trivial for me to automate. (edited)
Finally, make sure if you do pin a comment that you lock it. Otherwise it does look like you're just trying to farm replies and attention imo, even though I know that's not the case for anyone here. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:25 AM
I'm thinking we won't do community votes for basic moderator actions like this. We'll look at learnings and adjust course as needed
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The stickied comments are good. They also help set the tone for users planning to comment.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:35 AM
People are going to criticize literally everything we do. It is impossible to please everyone. Community will adjust and keep growing, so long as we're acting in good faith generally, which we are.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 03:41 PM
@everyone - I want to call this out real quick. https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - MOD TRANSPARENCY POST]/ I appreciate the care that went into this post and I know the intentions are good, but we do not make modposts without team discussion and input. It does not matter if you claim to only be speaking for yourself - when you make a post as a moderator, flair it as a mod post, and discuss moderation efforts, you are speaking for all of us. This kind of thing requires collaboration, especially the input of ["Not Us, Me"] or myself, preferably both of us. Don't take it upon yourself to interface with the community about how we're strategizing internally. Thanks.
[REDACTED - MANY] votes and [REDACTED - MANY] comments so far on Reddit
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"A pretty chill dude" 30-Jan-22 03:42 PM
okay a
how does a daily discussion post sound? maybe a weekly?
I feel like it'd save a lottttt of approving posts lol. sorry if it's been mentioned
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 03:43 PM
I think that post is going well and don't see the issue with it beyond first aligning to post it as a team, and yeah I'd agree with a daily post.
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@everyone - I want to call this out real quick. https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - MOD TRANSPARENCY POST]/ I appreciate the care that went into this post and I know the intentions are good, but we do not make modposts without team discussion and input. It does not matter if you claim to only be speaking for yourself - when you make a post as a moderator, flair it as a mod post, and discuss moderation efforts, you are speaking for all of us. This kind of thing requires collaboration, especially the input of ["Not Us, Me"] or myself, preferably both of us. Don't take it upon yourself to interface with the community about how we're strategizing internally. Thanks.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 03:43 PM
I went ahead and unflaired the distinguish, but I didn't really say anything about the mod team as a whole though aside from the obvious.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 03:45 PM
Leaving it removed.
Let's huddle up at a future time to talk about what we should communicate public facing.
Thanks for the efforts, everyone.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 03:45 PM
["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] I don't think you/["Not Us, Me"] should be dictating what the other mods do, let's try to avoid calling rank and try to work together.
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Thanks for the efforts, everyone.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 03:46 PM
Sure, but as a community member we're allowed to make posts too. I won't specifically distinguish or mention mod matters though going forward, my apologies.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 03:46 PM
Noted ["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"], thanks for your feedback. We'll circle back around on this.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 03:49 PM
As a middle ground are we okay with keeping ["A Succulent Peyote"]'s post up? It's up already, it's gotten traction, and it is going well. Taking it down doesn't make sense to me.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 03:51 PM
I'm fine either way, I understand "Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" sentiments.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 03:51 PM
Noted ["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"], thanks.
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I'm fine either way, I understand "Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" sentiments.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 03:57 PM
Thank you for saying that. I really do appreciate how much you're taking initiative right now. Sorry if I made you feel singled out. (edited)
We all have big ideas, and we will get to execute on them. It will take some time. (edited)
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 30-Jan-22 04:30 PM
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[REDACTED, DOX + HARASSMENT] isn't ordinarily what happens but is a good example of worst case scenario, though I've heard some people have gotten it worse than me. One mods had people come to their house to threaten them.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 04:32 PM
I made sure to be careful in how I link or what information is said on my mod account, personally I'm not worried about that. Your points still stand though, sorry to hear that happened 😦
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 30-Jan-22 04:33 PM
That came internally from a mod team, believe it or not. Careful about details shared here, too, at least until you learn to trust everyone
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 08:00 PM
Empty modqueue πŸ‘
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DELTA 30-Jan-22 08:12 PM
Yeah, I've been at it for hours. Just finished.
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Maybe others also; but I couldn't tell.
Honestly, people suck. Probably only 0.01% of them, but they can certainly ruin things for everyone ese.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 04:20 AM
our rules are different on old and new reddit. new reddit has 4 rules, old reddit has 8
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 06:14 AM
A more time intensive update was required on new reddit. I just haven't had time to sit down and do it yet but it's on my list today
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:37 AM
pinned this to help set some tone
can come down whenever
Still picking up new subs at quite a rapid clip
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 10:38 AM
beautiful
thanks for making some stickied comments too
those definitely help funnel new subs and set tone for comments section
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:43 AM
oh yeah, and the upvotes on them kinda speak for themselves
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People are enthused
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 10:44 AM
There's a lot of feedback from people hopeful that we'll be more focused than antiwork
and I think they're starting to pick up that that's the goal
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:45 AM
I scrolled my comments and was like WTF how did that comment get 400 upvotes
They are. People like being shepherded into things that make them feel empowered. Once we get that "How to form a union" guide together, im pretty stoked to see what happens
One goal I have with this subreddit is to send stuff like "concrete guide to unionizing" to front page of reddit on the reg
throwing that in front of millions of eyeballs on a semi-daily basis is going to be some pretty high quality reddit activism
We drove a lot of IRL activism on [BERNIE_SUB], too, bu funneling folks to call teams and stuff in their geographic area
Stuff that "emerges" from this, especially with prodding from modding driving them to a handful of specific thing -- the community is going to wind up doing some freaking cool stuff, i am pretty confident
In philosophy, systems theory, science, and art, emergence occurs when an entity is observed to have properties its parts do not have on their own, properties or behaviors which emerge only when the parts interact in a wider whole. Emergence plays a central role in theories of integrative levels and of complex systems. For instance, the phenomen...
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 10:48 AM
I'm just here for the snowflakes
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:49 AM
If you can't handle me at my termite mound, you don't deserve me at my snowflake
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 11:18 AM
heck of a mound
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DELTA 31-Jan-22 11:56 AM
Looks like a rock formation. Or that thing you do at the beach where you dribble the mud from your fist and make those little stalagmites.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 12:18 PM
looks like a buddha's hand citron to me
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 12:19 PM
that's what those are called? Fascinating. I need to try one.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 12:19 PM
they're nice to season things with. you only eat the zest though.. not a whole lot of actual fruit
like use it in an old fashioned
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 12:30 PM
Hey @everyone , I want to make an announcement: We are not going to be having moderator elections. Reddit communities are internet message boards. They are not an actual body politic with control of human beings, which would necessitate a greater need for more democracy. On reddit, democracy is that people are 100% free to unsubscribe if they don't like the way things are done. Moderators are volunteers who help guide a community. If moderators do a good job, an activist community is cohesive and marches towards specific goals together. Decades of collective social media experience, some of it political and extremely successful, tell us that r/W.rk.R.frm is more likely to be successful if we first seek to set a tone built around advancing workers rights. This is a final decision for the foreseeable future. In terms of bringing on new mods, we have a post going up soon, and we hope lots of folks apply. Please toss a βœ… when you've had a moment to read this announcement. Thank you!
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[REDACTED] 02-Feb-22 04:29 AM
I appear to have lost my mod permissions
I came here because I thought the subreddit needed/wanted my help. If I'm not needed or wanted I'll leave. (edited)
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[REDACTED] 02-Feb-22 04:47 AM
alright, have a good one folks
hopefully this infighting doesn't prevent real change.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 02-Feb-22 05:08 AM
its not you [REDACTED], perms were pulled temporarily to make sure it stay up until ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] rolls out of bed and makes his decision. [GAMMA] tried to talk to him and was blocked
he has changed every single idea we stood for as a sub the second he had power.
put fear into the minds of other mods
intimidated people through dms
powermods gonna powermod. transparancy is key, and theres no taking it back now. frankly, i cant believe he did this shit. it disgusts me. i am a huge bernie supporter, and thought that he would share ideals.
whats done is done.
the caliber of human being displayed is some of most dishonest, distasteful, unaltruistic, internet power driven mania i have ever witnessed.
none of the other original mods were consulted about the transfer of power.
he whispered in [GAMMA]s ear knowing he did not fully understand the levity of the situation. he fucking kicked the god damn original mods...
what the fuck did he think was going to happen?
["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"], i expect you to join a call with all of the original mods, and ["A Tough, Sturdy Animal"] at some point.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 02-Feb-22 05:29 AM
Joined the server.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 02-Feb-22 05:41 AM
πŸ“Έ Sup, yall! I fucking love photography. Oh, and fuck you! πŸ–•
Never pull this shit on anyone again. You caused this, and you need to hold yourselves accountable for it and step the fuck down + publicly apologize if you have any shred of decency. You've had so many chances to, so fucking do it. And in the future? Do not take advantage of weak people. Do not take advantage of those who know less than you or those under duress. Do not bully and intimidate people into submitting to you. Do not lie to communities. Do not coopt communities. Do not be two-faced. Do not bully people. What the absolute fuck did you expect out of this? Did you seriously think nobody would say a word? Why the fuck do this to yourselves? Because you CHOSE to do this to yourselves. Every. Step. Along. The. Way. You CHOSE to pull all of us into this bullshit. You forced our hand; it'd have been unethical to not speak up about what you did. All we wanted to do was jump in, help the community find its footing, and get the fuck out. It really was supposed to be that simple. I thought I'd be resigning on day 2. But nope, you chose to keep us in this battle for longer. You turned on us and chose to make us fight you. And lastly, you turned on your community and chose to make them fight you.
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 06:48 AM
"Not Us, Me" grow a pair and talk to us you little henchman
@everyone
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