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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:02 PM
https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED POST ABOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS] This is misinformation as clarified in the top post, so I want to pull it.
[REDACTED - MANY] votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit
"This was in response to her already high salary. She found it cringeworthy to ask for MORE than she was already making, because she felt it was already more than adequate."
I have removed it. If someone has a better solution please let me know.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:24 PM
I killed this
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:27 PM
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:29 PM
I'm reporting anything that I think other moderators might disagree with me on and want to discuss.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:29 PM
It's probably a good idea for us to figure out which posts we want and which ones we don't
so this channel is a good idea for saying "hey i don't know about this one"
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:30 PM
Once we get past this "antiwork" / "moderators!!!" phase, it will be a lot easier to moderate
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:32 PM
I have been daydreaming about just kicking "mod" into auto-remove for a while
but the community should probably have this catharsis
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:32 PM
It's ironic because if you do, then it will be "MODS ARE DELETING POSTS ABOUT MODS!@!!!" if someone figures it out, which they inevitably will lol
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:34 PM
the most important thing to curate right now is the front page of the subreddit & new incoming posts. Keep those focused and on-topic and the rest will come together nicely.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:34 PM
I feel we can gradually prune these sorts of things. E.g. if today 2 front page slots are about drama, then tomorrow 1. Then the day after 0.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:35 PM
I was about to say - by this time tomorrow, we should have no posts on the front 2 pages of the sub about anti-work or mods or anything like that
We are letting nothing like that through now. It'll fall off with time.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:35 PM
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:36 PM
oh i see
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:38 PM
Should we sort 'rapist' into auto-remove for a bit? The therapists will just have to suffer for a while
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:39 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" regex supports \b for word delimiters
e.g. \brapist in the automoderator string would filter "you are a rapist" but not "you are a therapist"... would have to test the config though
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:39 PM
gonna need more of an ELI5 on that
ohhh
nice
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:46 PM
Added r/saltedhash2205568302 to auto-remove
don't need us oxygenating that
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:47 PM
what about /r/saltedhash1425514101
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:47 PM
yeah let's ax it
done
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:50 PM
How about autoremoving u/saltedhash1221668451 mentions? (edited)
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:51 PM
definitely
can be considered brigading/doxxing or w/e
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:52 PM
yarp
how about removing u/saltedhash2815089101
(kidding)
kind of
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:53 PM
I think automoderator has a special rule for that actually
That informs users hey we don't allow mentions, but feel free to repost this without that
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 10:53 PM
We want to be as silent as possible with removals for now
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 10:53 PM
yes
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:54 PM
I agree, but I'm referring to <any> mentions. I think most would consider that fair game and unbiased. /r/saltedhash2932597558 I think does it for example. I'm ok to not do it though. (edited)
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 10:57 PM
agreed
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 10:57 PM
r/Aut'oModer.t.r: Important announcements, helpful tips, and discussion regarding AutoModerator.
This is the generic "username mentions" rule
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 10:59 PM
so it grabs them without a mention, just in conversation. down the road we can change that but for now with the amount of people trying to dox [SIGMA] and such i think its not a bad idea tro chuck them into the que
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:00 PM
I'm down to auto-remove mentions of us
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"Come with me if you want to live" 27-Jan-22 11:00 PM
just to help with this inital surge of trolls
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:00 PM
"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" will that work?
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I'm down to auto-remove mentions of us
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 11:02 PM
Absolutely. Mod criticism can come via modmail.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:02 PM
sweet
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 11:02 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" Of course! Better than nothing πŸ™‚
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:02 PM
workuing on it
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 11:03 PM
Otherwise, a community will, at least in a hot button issues big community, pile on (or at least the vocal folks will).
Its a great way to make communities sabotage themselves
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:04 PM
it's done
mentions of us are auto-removed
ideally this is reversed asap
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 11:13 PM
https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST HOPING FOR BIPARTISAN UNITY] Sub mentions are not OK right (e.g. to r/saltedhash468868561 )? (edited)
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:14 PM
rught
right
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 27-Jan-22 11:14 PM
Are we OK with subreddits that are less at odds with us, e.g. /r/saltedhash2430457067?
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:14 PM
I think that's fine, just no "antiwork" or political subs
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:16 PM
yes
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:16 PM
people are skirting "[REDACTED]" with "[REDACTED]"
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:16 PM
put "[REDACTED]"/"[REDACTED]" in the remove condition, too
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people are skirting "[REDACTED]" with "[REDACTED]"
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 11:16 PM
Lock em up
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:16 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:20 PM
that's a whole novella of comments
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:20 PM
jesus
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"Not Us, Me" 27-Jan-22 11:21 PM
When people do stuff like that, i usually respond with "Hey, we appreciate your view! But please stop copy-pasting it any more."
Or similar comment. People who mean well will usually stop
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:21 PM
some dude really has it out for you [REDACTED]
i muted him from the mod mail because he was very annoying about it
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:22 PM
user should probably be banned too
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:23 PM
or maybe not right now
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:23 PM
I only muted them
so feel free to ban if you would like
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:24 PM
yeah it had to be done
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:25 PM
We can.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:25 PM
it is targeted harassment and doxxing, so yeah
i would if i were you, wannabe
best if you do it since you are the target
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:25 PM
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:25 PM
report the modmail directly
and send a copy to [REDACTED ADMIN] in the mod mail as well
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:29 PM
after you report it, reply to [REDACTED ADMIN]'s mod mail for expedited help
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 27-Jan-22 11:33 PM
i would include that you reported it via the report form
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GAMMA 27-Jan-22 11:36 PM
Do not tolerate any attempts at doxing. Immediately contact reddit admins or let me know and they will immediately take actions.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 27-Jan-22 11:39 PM
Nothing internal should be made publicly available
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 12:04 AM
Nope
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:04 AM
That's the correct course of action, remove & request a fixed link.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:27 AM
[SIDE_2] I removed https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - COMMENT IN POST ABOUT WORKER'S RIGHTS] - it's antivax stuff trying to coopt the movement.
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 12:27 AM
hell no
imo, instant perm ban for anti-vax stances
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"On your orders. That will be easy." 28-Jan-22 12:29 AM
It's political because their party made it that way. Mandatory vaccinations have existed before COVID and will exist afterwards.
You can't go to school unless you are vaccinated against whatever list of things the school requires you to be vaccinated against
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:33 AM
I agree. For the purpose of the sub I think this falls under the "divisive wedge issues" category we discussed earlier. These conversations are not relevant to [LABOR] reform. Even if we share strong opinions on them, they are not topical (like how MMA, Too Hot To Handle, or grandma's favorite Apple Pie recipe aren't topical). These conversations are what adversaries will use to attempt to fracture the community to left and right, white vs black, etc, when the demographics all have a common goal of [LABOR] reform. We should not allow these discussions and we should not take sides on them. At most, we take a side on hate through its removal. (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:02 AM
https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST ABOUT MINORITIES & RIGHT-WING UNITY] I've left this up with a "debate on Unity and Subreddit Identity" tag. Such posts existed on AW and are a chance for lurkers to understand the general community view, which aligns with what we discussed earlier (focus on Unity, avoid division through wedge issues). The comments are generally productive and informative.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:29 AM
goin through the mod queue, [REDACTED] should at least get a mute or something for spamming
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:35 AM
Have we given a warning yet?
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:36 AM
no idea
also, automod is flagging the word "mode" thinking it's "mod"
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:38 AM
I'd prefer we start light-handed. We need people in the community to spark discussions and get conversations going. Some people will be overzealous but I think that's a good problem to have and we should try to leverage that in our favor. I don't see a positive outcome to muting/banhammer spamming; at best a neutral outcome. But I see a positive outcome if we try to be diplomatic with those that I do think have positive intentions. This is literally day 2 for most of us. Let's give it a shot. (edited)
With [BERNIE_SUB] we had incredibly active community collaborators who at time we disagreed with, but I think that was mostly for the better because at minimum they cared and were mostly pushing things forward with us.
Also given the movement absolutely hates crappy managers just willy nilly pushing people around or playing power fantasies (see the recent drama)... Dishing out undue punishments to employees as if they are children, etc... I think it's very important we try to avoid any misconceptions of that with people who really are our allies. (edited)
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:47 AM
I personally think thats a great thing to be striving towards, but there are groups of active bad faith actors working against us, and I think we need to set a line in the sand on what is acceptable, to an extent, at least until the Fox News drama blows over.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 03:49 AM
Is the user getting reports? That to me is a problem we can discuss with them. But if our annoyance is that we keep seeing their walls of text because our automod filter sucks then let's fix that first. All I'm saying is... This is one user we're talking about, not a billion independent bad actors that we don't have time to reason about. We can afford to do this one right.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:49 AM
yea, they're literally spamming the same message over an over
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 03:59 AM
automod is also picking up "modern" as "mod" too. and I think it should also be picking up obvious transphobia, since I think we can all agree on not wanting that
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 05:02 AM
thoughts on locking this post? it seems to just be bringing bad faith debaters now https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED-CALL-TO-UNSUB-FROM-SOMEWHERE]
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 05:32 AM
made the executive decision to lock it since nobody @here wanted to chime it. will unlock it if it is decided that's best
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:23 AM
We can probably start to more confidently take moderator action against subreddit drama posts that are no longer contributing good things to the sub
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 07:24 AM
fair, fair
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:30 AM
I think "Conservatives on this subreddit are bad" posts are not good things to let through. A lot of people are one conversation away from getting on board with [LABOR] reform. Don't pit the working class against one another, keep the focus on the ruling class's denial of [LABOR] reform.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:57 AM
Seriously, this sub is on fucking crack. This is dumber than the fucking other subreddit imploding. This is obviously a bought and paid for psy-ops, goddammit there is n 'unity' with a group of fucking bigots who only believe lies and propaganda they watch on fox news
Comments that are sharply critical / anti [LABOR]reform should result in a ban.
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 07:57 AM
yup
was just about to ban that person too, but if you wanna go for it, please do
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:57 AM
done did it
Just try to add context to ban reasons
I usually just snip a piece of their comment
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 07:58 AM
fair
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 08:02 AM
Yeah interesting! Had not seen that tool before
Cant wait to have my extensive internet history raked over again
My favorite days are when people accuse me of being both a communist and a capitalist... which one is it???
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 08:04 AM
Exercise, melatonin, and a few whiskies knocks my old ass out pretty reliably these days
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:41 AM
I just removed this
What happens on other subreddits shouldn't be our concern
although I appreciate OP going to bat for us
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:42 AM
feck.. sorry about that, that one got past me. been at this... almost 8 hours now
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:42 AM
If you need a break, take one! Self care is important. Don't burn out πŸ™‚
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:43 AM
thanks lol. gonna call it quits for the day at around 2pm
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:43 AM
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:43 AM
pretty much lmao
I've been joking that I picked the wrong month to stop drinking lmao
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:47 AM
yeah last night I had to tell myself "You are not going to gain 30 pounds. Not this time. Not like every time you've worked on a busy subreddit."
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:50 AM
the adrenaline is now catching up to me... gonna take the whole weekend off at this point
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:53 AM
I've pulled the term 'mod' from automod for now. Things are calming down a bit on that front.
will add it back if team wants
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 08:54 AM
all good with me
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:32 AM
whew I'll say
fixed
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:45 AM
well that's interesting
I'm still seeing new things in the queue
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 09:46 AM
we went on an eddie murphy 80s binge recently... that dude had an incredible career that decade
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"It's getting', it's getting', it's gettin' kinda hectic" 28-Jan-22 09:46 AM
[REDACTED: BOTLOADS] votes and [REDACTED: BOTLOADS] comments so far on Reddit
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:51 AM
yes
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:51 AM
interesting observation
r/saltedhash2039353783 is trying to gain traction on WR
some are positioning it as an alternative to WR
I'm auto-modding it
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 09:54 AM
work stressful today but jumping in when I can
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:00 AM
yes
perhaps [REDACTED] ought to be auto-removed for now
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:04 AM
check their comment history maybe
see if there's a pattern
but honestly also feel empowered to fire away
we need to be agile right now, we might make mistakes
things can be corrected later
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:05 AM
yeah
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 10:11 AM
Perma bans are fine with me. If someone shouldnt have been, they will write into modmail with hat in hand and say sorry, please unban.
But most of the time, they write back in telling you to f off, and you just feel good about the ban
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 10:19 AM
I say no
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:14 AM
I prefer we allow wiki bots. I've always found them useful on mobile. They paste a TL;DR of articles and tend to have organic discussions below them. OK with having users summarize things themselves though. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:20 AM
Once that thread starts dropping we may want to prune it from the front page of the sub
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:21 AM
Yeah... I personally find it completely unnecessary. I think it has good points but we should be addressing that stuff in the sub wiki / rules ourselves.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:21 AM
it's never too late to remove a post
and it is generating a ton of not great discourse all over the subreddit
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 11:22 AM
I am in a decades long love affair with wikipedia
so im always pro
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:22 AM
FWIW I think the conversations are healthy. The sub just needs its own stance - definition. (edited)
And it's OK for that stance to evolve with conversations. But we should write something somewhere and vaguely point people at it.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:22 AM
As long as that conversation is happening, it will never stop happening. We're getting like 3 posts a minute right now of users' opinions on left/right issues
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:25 AM
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:25 AM
Can't it be taken as brigading?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:25 AM
hmm
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:26 AM
I thought these sorts of posts are frowned upon by admins.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:26 AM
that's where I'm leaning also, but let's watch it
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:26 AM
OK, let's see where it goes.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:27 AM
yeah there's no CTA, no direct link to r/saltedhash1625329382 anywhere
antiwork is trying to improve its image but clearly it isn't actually reforming
want to keep a bit of pressure on I think
actually
removing
no evidence its our community
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:28 AM
Also, can we ourselves not do that autoban-by-association stuff? Like, it feels horribly authoritarian. I can't comment on subreddits whose viewpoints I disagree with because I figure I'll get banned in 100 other places.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:28 AM
yeah we're not gonna do that
a path to the dark side, pre-emptive banning is
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:54 AM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" I agree with the removal of https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: POST AGAINST LEFT-RIGHT UNITY] - I think the conversations are good to have, but there are so many we can choose the ones that frame the debate in the right light.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:54 AM
It really doesn't matter if the conversation is good or not at this point, it's causing the community to lose focus
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:55 AM
It's time to get people off of thinking what the movement is about and get them just being a part of the movement
modteam articulating goals will help
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:58 AM
OK. We've talked about articulating these goals before. Let's do that. I can draft something and run it by the team in an hour.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 11:58 AM
["Not Us, Me"] is working on something
we'll get there
for now, we need to hold the line
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:26 PM
yeah
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:29 PM
let me look into that
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:29 PM
may still need a /b elsewhere in automod
I have it under the auto remove section
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:30 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" did you save your changes?
Rule looks unchanged to me
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:30 PM
who knows with that guy honestly
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:33 PM
They might have been banned by reddit already
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:33 PM
thanks reddit
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:34 PM
Some people make alt accounts to spam. Reddit catches that quickly.
I don't think dissent is an issue. But that comment is divisive and flamebaity which is another thing.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:38 PM
ban em and report to mods
let me know if I can help
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:39 PM
"On your orders. That will be easy." why did this get removed [REDACTED URL] ?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:39 PM
admins I mean
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:39 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:39 PM
oh well
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:41 PM
Are we OK with approving it then? I don't see what's wrong with it.
We should own our mistakes, if this is a mistake. It's no big deal but there's no point covering it. (edited)
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 12:57 PM
Hey I was wondering if I could get automod permissions, I'm familiar with regex, and can refine it to prevent some false positives. I also noticed it's doing reports which is clogging up our ability to see real user reports. There's also a match error that isn't listing what the caught content was. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:57 PM
yeah that was an error corrected already
my woops
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 12:58 PM
it's a tough life for the reddit user
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 12:58 PM
I think leadership is an abstract word.
We certainly aren't dictators, for example.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 12:59 PM
Good to hear, I feel like a lot of content is still being smooshed through mod que, it's making us too focus on tedious mod tasks that can be automated versus us focusing more on community content and facilitating productive discussions.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 01:00 PM
When are we OK with relaxing the approve-only requirement? That was in place to prevent [REDACTED]/antiwork hate right? Is it still necessary?
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 01:01 PM
Maybe once we get the rules we're drafting up then?
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:01 PM
If automod is doing fine, then I think we can turn that off. A lot of us though can't see what automod looks like
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 01:09 PM
yeah
If there y keep doing it, especially
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:09 PM
I mean, it's innocent? We should be more transparent or we're going to end up like r/saltedhash1625329382 mods
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 01:09 PM
Im removing all the stuff whining about moderation here, too
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:10 PM
Automod at some point should provide a reason for removed content
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:10 PM
Automod can remove all the meta phrases
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 01:16 PM
Not yet
Removal reasons will stoke community rage
Long term, yes
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:18 PM
Will it though if we mention how we're trying to move away from internal and subreddit drama?
It may give the false impression that we're removing any and all comments, I think most people will understand, and it will likely prevent future spam once a person is notified about this.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 01:29 PM
I think once we get the interim rules / "who we are" sticky up, we can point people at the "who we are" post as a sort of megathread. People are excited and it will take time and patience to align the community. I often feel the frustration on reddit is less "moderators powertrip" (though that is an issue) and more "moderation is opaque". I think being transparent here and having a basic code of conduct that explains "we are removing this not because we agree or disagree with you, but because we have taken a stance that this can be discussed elsewhere and does not be discussed here where it is more likely to divide than unify us"
Also FYI: https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED] Hundreds of comments like this because we are removing things.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:31 PM
That's a good approach, people want discussions and it'll be easier with some megathreads for people to vent a bit too. True, people just want mods to be transparent for a predictable expereince.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 01:33 PM
Also, I understand we want the subreddit to be focused, but I think it's important to leave space for controversial discussions so long as they remain productive. They keep people coming back for critical thought and stir the melting pot. I think that's good. I think we can think of them like fuel to nuclear reactors - we just need to control how much we let in so things don't violently explode. But we also don't want nothing.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 28-Jan-22 01:41 PM
Is there a reason why this was locked and removed (sorry if it was already talked about here): https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST ABOUT CONSERVATIVE INCLUSION] (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 01:42 PM
["Not Us, Me"] is working on a draft "welcome the community" post that I think will address that. Including stuff like "hey let's try to focus on common ground and what unites us rather than searching for where we disagree"
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DELTA 28-Jan-22 02:39 PM
What do you guys think of this?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:43 PM
That will definitely happen eventually
Right now we are just trying to keep the ship oriented
We are working on rules, subreddit direction, hiring new mods, etc
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:44 PM
I think it's super important to understand we are filtering 1% on accident to make sure that 99% of the good stuff gets through.
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DELTA 28-Jan-22 02:46 PM
Cool. Incidentally, I'm not a mod anymore. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:46 PM
you were re-invited
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"Come with me if you want to live" 28-Jan-22 02:47 PM
are we all being reinvited
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:47 PM
I should have gotten everyone
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DELTA 28-Jan-22 02:48 PM
Okay, so should we add a "no politics" rule, then? We're going to be deleting countless posts. I think it has to be a policy.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:48 PM
DELTA I think the rules will come later
"Not Us, Me" has drafted a "first sticky" post that I've been comenting on. on google docs. Ask him to be added.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:49 PM
We'll hammer out updated rules soon
Politics will probably be okay in the long run but right now it's a divisive subject
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 02:51 PM
I'd go further. A lot of the posts on the subreddit ARE political in nature already. But they are not framed as political debates or wedge issues. Politics does not need to be framed as a debate or controversy. (edited)
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DELTA 28-Jan-22 02:52 PM
I'm missing automod permissions. Would someone add them back, please?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 02:55 PM
yep
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DELTA 28-Jan-22 02:55 PM
Thank you.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 03:54 PM
"On your orders. That will be easy." do not approve things like this https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - WHY ARE MY POSTS ALL BEING DELETED]
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We are NOT approving meta posts like this.
They will do nothing but whip the community up
thanks
https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]/[REDACTED] Let's avoid letting through comments that link to other subs
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:02 PM
What's the problem with linking to other subs that aren't hostile to us?
Or are they?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:02 PM
Don't know, for now let's just avoid
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 04:25 PM
I went ahead and just banned this user. They're just a deluge of comments about how the subreddit is bad
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:29 PM
"Not Us, Me" did automod catch that comment? It's supposed to auto remove that subreddit
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:29 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" I don't see anything in the config that would catch this
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 04:30 PM
I don't think so.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:33 PM
hmm
will work on that
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 28-Jan-22 04:34 PM
What does config look like
Do we need structure or are we organized
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:35 PM
Modmail needs to get processed
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:35 PM
Yeah I didn't have that sub in automod
do now
should be auto-removed now
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 04:36 PM
Can we automod trojan horse?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 04:36 PM
yes
done
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"A pretty chill dude" 28-Jan-22 07:24 PM
πŸ˜‚
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 07:25 PM
Get used to it
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:25 PM
if I could I'd never leave the house
It's always best to ignore the modmails like that
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 07:25 PM
We get like 10 of those a day on [BERNIE_SUB]
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"A pretty chill dude" 28-Jan-22 07:26 PM
I know, i mod another sub too. I just thought it was funny
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 07:27 PM
If I had a nickel every time some clown called me a commie, I wouldn't be a socialist anymore
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:27 PM
honestly I can't tell if I'm a commie or a capitalist
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the feedback is all over the place
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"A pretty chill dude" 28-Jan-22 07:28 PM
same
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 07:28 PM
Whatever you are you're totally a shill for it
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"A pretty chill dude" 28-Jan-22 07:28 PM
I'm everything at some point
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 07:28 PM
paid by soros, or Bernie, or Trump
or something
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 07:31 PM
Michelle Wu pays me in t-shirts
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:07 PM
Bad post, promotes another sub
We're not doing petitions
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 08:10 PM
Hard agree with the first comment here. Removed, will modnote as possible troll https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: POST ABOUT COMMUNITY]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:10 PM
["Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack"] out there kickin ass
good flag
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 08:12 PM
we're straight up banning transphobia right? because I am
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 28-Jan-22 08:12 PM
oh yeah
weapons free on the ban hammers
ax users who come to say "this subreddit sucks" also (edited)
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 28-Jan-22 08:16 PM
this feels like modding [BERNIE_SUB] during the early primaries. modqueue filling up in the blink of an eye
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honestly I can't tell if I'm a commie or a capitalist
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 09:12 PM
For real
Like idk i dont think people should go bankrupt if they get cancer? Does that make me a communist? I also think it would be good for spurring business creation? Isnt competition part of capitalism? Anyways, don't we all need healthcare?
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"Not Us, Me" 28-Jan-22 09:43 PM
Easy to agree with all that
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:24 PM
BTW, I never know if these "I'm going to kill myself tonight" comments are troll or not, but unfortunately please expect to run into a lot of them. There is a "report" button option for threatening "self-harm or suicide" that will have Reddit handle the situation for you. You do not need to (and should not - we are not trained for this) intervene yourself. https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]/[REDACTED - MENTAL HEALTH POST]/[REDACTED]/ (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 28-Jan-22 11:25 PM
Remove and report. If you report, Reddit will send all the suicide hotline and more to them over a DM.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 01:23 AM
Pulled https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED] It has a good message, but throwing hammers and sickles everywhere on our sub is probably counterproductive. It's not a perfect comparison, but it'd be a bit like a right-winger posting a video of themselves talking about a valid negative work experience w/ a blue lives matter flag behind them. It's bait for right wing hate, left-left infighting ad nauseum, and off-topic random arguments about the soviet union. I understand hammers and sickles are important to <some> pro-worker movements and am open to hear others' opinions? I believe this removal reflects the community's will as written in the comments. (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:06 AM
Brigading https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/saltedhash2325239428/comments/[REDACTED - POST ENCOURAGING BRIGADING] and https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST TESTING BANHAMMER] Also they've literally set up Automoderator to slander the original mods. Just an FYI that sub's not friendly. Are we supposed to report this to reddit? (edited)
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 06:12 AM
are we allowing polls? this one seems like it could be a fun conversation starter https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED POLL ON COMPANY SIZE VS COMP]
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are we allowing polls? this one seems like it could be a fun conversation starter https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED POLL ON COMPANY SIZE VS COMP]
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 06:27 AM
Seems fine
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Hard agree with the first comment here. Removed, will modnote as possible troll https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]/
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 06:50 AM
aaaaand that user just got banned for transphobia. I tried to let them live
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 07:20 AM
excuse me while I return to my regularly scheduled gawking at a [REDACTED]
Went through the top posts of the last week and started removing the unproductive /r/saltedhash1625329382 memes. Time to move on from subreddit drama
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 07:51 AM
Well done ["Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack"]
That way on my list of things to do this morning
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 08:31 AM
lol https://mod.rexxit.cxm/mail/all/[REDACTED] I had the nerve to remove his post about being conservative and pro-worker rights
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 08:31 AM
I banned that user once already
Did they get released?
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 08:32 AM
I'll take that as permission to ban them again
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 08:32 AM
Yeah
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They've made posts hostile to mods and then did one that was titled "Thanks to the workers who put down anarchists last year" with a photo of soldiers
That's around when I figured that they weren't here to really contribute anything productive
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 08:51 AM
guess we could have seen that coming
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 08:51 AM
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 09:18 AM
yeah ok
one of the fastest bans I've ever thrown
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 09:32 AM
why yes, yes they are
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:15 AM
https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST ABOUT GAMING MULTIPLE EMPLOYERS] this is easy troll / reformwork is all lazy unemployed people bait but can be from a legitimate person. Approve or disapprove?
It's proposing people take on multiple jobs, stringing all of them along doing nothing (because most jobs give workers space to ramp up), then resigning and jumping to the next job.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 10:54 AM
I figured that post wouldn't take off anyway, so i leaned toward remove. I think it could be framed a lot better.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 11:01 AM
An individual who has a question can hit modmail. An individual who makes a post demanding an answer from mods is trying to stir the community also. Bad actors will try to weaken the relationship between community and mods because, regardless of what the community might say, they look to mods for direction. "Mods must explain" reduces the effectiveness of [LABOR]reform.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:13 AM
How do larger real-world labor organizations handle this? There has to be space for people to collectively dissent and challenge those in power (and mods objectively have more power than non-mods) given that's sort of everything [LABOR]reform stands for right?
A fairly common tactic by work bosses IS to have people individually talk to them, rather than collectively doing so in a group setting. It is intimidating for the individual and lets their bosses shut them down and feel like loons. By raising issues in a group setting (or having a union person with them if they have disciplinary talks) they get group power.
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 11:17 AM
Lol, I have so much to say about this
I don't even know where to begin
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 11:18 AM
Organizational democracy breaks down quickly without leaders. Flat organizations often get completely log-jammed.
Re mod criticism, here's my observations n thoughts: 1. The more of it you allow, the more of it you're going to increasingly get. 2. It wrecks out mods. This shit ain't paid. When the internet horde is going after you, 95/96 mods are going to quit. W'eve already seen some of this happen. 3. Wrecking out the mods destroys the organization. 4. Wrecking out mods is an especially effective form of organizational sabotage 5. Maybe it don't feel great, but protecting the organization and its goals necessarily involves shielding mods
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And it feels really bad to have to this take. I've spent [REDACTED, THOUGH NOT REALLY PII]
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 11:22 AM
And so like, you're hanging out with all the most pro-democracy people, and everyone's "knee jerk" response is always gonna be MORE DEMOCRACY IS ALWAYS BETTER
IDK, here are some of my thoughts
One reason why businesses (or paid influence rings) are able to accomplish so much is because they pay folks for compliance
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:25 AM
Hmm, I hear everything you're saying about flat orgs being inefficient and permitting moderator criticism tending to just yield people infinitely spamming mod criticism everywhere.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:41 AM
Wait
[REDACTED - POST IS ABOUT RIGHT-WINGERS CAUSING WORKER PROBLEMS]
https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - UNITY POST]
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I thought we weren't doing this?
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 11:42 AM
I missed that decree
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:42 AM
Okay can we backtrack on that? We're in the wrong here.
Unless our stance has changed?
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 11:42 AM
mine hasn't, but if the modteam disagrees I'll delete
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:43 AM
Why were they banned?
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 11:43 AM
user was not banned for this thread. user was banned for lashing out in modmail
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:44 AM
Why did they lash out?
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lol https://mod.rexxit.cxm/mail/all/[REDACTED] I had the nerve to remove his post about being conservative and pro-worker rights
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 11:44 AM
this one
also ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"] said they should have been banned already, but not sure what his reasoning was
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:46 AM
I don't see why he should be banned. His removed comments are: * Theres a rule against no hate [REDACTED, RANDOM REDDITOR]. And ive seen people calling that shit out and [REDACTED; TLDR MODS REMOVED IT] * This I guess he username-tagged certain mods too once.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:47 AM
And I guess "[REDACTED TO PREVENT SEARCHING USER]"
He's saying "99% of people here aren't against trans people, those that are should be reported to the mods". I don't see anything wrong with that.
Like sure, maybe there's hyperbole. I don't know the exact number of people who are transphobic. But I don't see the issue? (edited)
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:50 AM
Okay back to the "managers can bully people" point I was making, I don't see why we should say "hey you should play nice" to them. We are in the wrong here.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 11:59 AM
Is it possible for me to get automod permissions? There's still a lot of false positives showing up that can be added each time
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 12:15 PM
Automod
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 01:13 PM
Seems like a waste of a post that doesn't further the cause to me
Assuming this is a ban
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 01:14 PM
i think with a much better description a post could be of use describing the situation from the movie in a larger form
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 01:16 PM
Certainly. If it had any sort of context I would've left it up
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 01:16 PM
btw in the future id like to talk with the newer mods that i havent had a chance to chat with to introduce ourselves πŸ™‚
i am working [REDACTED: PII], and murphys law has been in full swing, plus the [REDACTED: PII]
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 01:18 PM
Sure thing! Hop into my DMs
In my experience posts like this are unproductive and only invite vitriol
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 01:22 PM
i do believe that pitting workers against one another across party line is counter productive to the cause, but if i understanc correctly the current stance is simply quelling the rage and infighting. he is of course correct that conservative politicians work against the working class, and conservatives lap up the kool aid they spew and consequently work against the movement. the meta posts are being removed to get us back onto the message of the sub.
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 01:24 PM
Meta post removal is exactly what I was getting at. Glad we're on the same page
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 01:33 PM
If it hasn't been brought up yet, any call for violence should be removed
The admins hate the guillotine stuff
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"Come with me if you want to live" 29-Jan-22 01:44 PM
most certainly, and the implication to align the sub with the image by using it as a profile pic would seem that way. i can of course tell they are joking, and the joke is framed through the corporate speak of making cuts so the violence per say is on their behalf, but i agree its best not to imply anyone getting their heads cut off ever lol
now a call for action through stiking would be different
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 01:49 PM
Are we not removing political posts anymore? This one is marked as "approved," and I've had to delete a few of the comments that came of it. https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: POST ABOUT POLITICAL UNITY]
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 01:56 PM
Moderator discretion.
I think that particular one is OK, but it attempts to be acrooss the aisle.
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 01:58 PM
There were a few removed that were respectful and not inflammatory. I think we should be consistent, and have a rule that clearly states the policy.
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:30 PM
Do we have a way to pre-ban people by username?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:31 PM
Yeah
Definitely don't hesitate to ban offensive usernames
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:31 PM
Oh, I won't. I just wondered if there's like an "automod" for not letting them in in the first place.
Also, I learned a new word today: "tankie" Definition: "Delete my comment because I'm being a twat."
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:34 PM
that is about my level of comprehension of the term 'tankie' as well
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:35 PM
Also, anyone with "crowd control" next to their name seems to be a < 1hr-old account that's trolling.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 02:37 PM
Instead of crowd control, should we just set up a minimum account age and positive karma requirement?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:37 PM
I think yes on the account age
Probably karma too
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:38 PM
Yeah. I thought we had an account-age thing, and I've definitely seen others say "I thought we had an account age thing" a couple of times already. Is it broken?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:38 PM
I don't think we have that script in our automod
What should the account age be, 3 days? 7 days?
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 29-Jan-22 02:40 PM
Karma restrictions have sort of negative returns when you go beyond 50-100 since lots of lurkers complain that they can't post. Keep in mind πŸ‘
3 days is prob most common grandpa
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It will never stop spam campaigns but it's easy enough to remove t-shirt spam
Takes care of the trolls instead
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:54 PM
If we want, we can also auto-flair low-karma users rather than outright not letting them post.
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:55 PM
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now", what's the reason for the lock/remove of this? https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: UNITY POST]
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 02:55 PM
Eg "new Redditor" or "Account 3 days old"
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now", what's the reason for the lock/remove of this? https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: UNITY POST]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:58 PM
Probably modding fast. It looks fine
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DELTA 29-Jan-22 02:58 PM
Thanks. I'll update. (edited)
Ahh, I see you handled it. Thank you.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 29-Jan-22 02:59 PM
Yeah for sure happy to fix my error πŸ™‚
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If we want, we can also auto-flair low-karma users rather than outright not letting them post.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 03:01 PM
Imo a few days for account age won't affect too many people, it's more so to stop brigading and ban circumventing of spam accounts.
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"Not Us, Me" 29-Jan-22 07:06 PM
is reddit screwing up? Im in modqueue and its showing me a bunch fo stuff thats already been modded (edited)
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is reddit screwing up? Im in modqueue and its showing me a bunch fo stuff thats already been modded (edited)
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"A Succulent Peyote" 29-Jan-22 07:09 PM
Maybe it's a glitch, I don't see anything strange.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 29-Jan-22 08:01 PM
[REDACTED: MANY] votes and [REDACTED: MANY] comments so far on Reddit
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It's almost like the reactionaries making these threads aren't operating in good faith
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 29-Jan-22 11:58 PM
Just reach out to them first imo (edited)
If people want to get involved that's a good problem to have right? I don't see why we have to open fire without trying to work together first.
they look like a real user with a long history in similar subreddits from a quick glance at their profile
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 30-Jan-22 05:03 AM
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 06:28 AM
I expect mod attacks to continue
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 30-Jan-22 06:31 AM
I do too, but that one is so specific
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 07:15 AM
I would normally remove this, but if the community comes up woth good stuff here... great.
If comments start to suck, lets remove
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 08:28 AM
I went ahead and approved this bc its clever and correct
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:45 AM
Is it possible for me to get automod permissions? There are some fixes and changes I'd like to make
Or someone with them can do it too. For the street address doxxing one, allow for symbols before numbers. And we need to add a message for the account age requirement for users, people are thinking they're getting shadowbanned. This is turning away a lot of users thinking we're censoring them without some clarification.
We should also be adding simple reasons (if it hasn't been done yet) to the other removals just as a heads up.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 09:49 AM
I've been offline due to [REDACTED: PII] but yes. Need to articulate our current rules on rule page, will do tonight. Then look at removal reasons.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:51 AM
Hundereds of users are thinking we're turning into r/saltedhash1625329382, it's really easy to add a quick message into the code.
It can be done in 5 minutes.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 09:53 AM
The language around our rules and in removal reasons is something we should take our time on and not rush. It'll happen.
"Not Us, Me" can you grant automod access? Not at computer yet
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:55 AM
I agree we can be more elaborate later, but for the time being a courtesy notification to let users know their comment/post has been temporarily removed will at least give them a bit of transparency.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 09:57 AM
Yeah as things calm down we can settle into more normal subreddit ops like that. The reason we haven't rushed into doing removal reasons is because at this stage, with so much anti mod sentiment in the community, things will be deliberately misconstrued to create more drama. A light touch from mods is needed at this time.
For new accounts, yeah we should provide a brief message
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 09:58 AM
I'm looking at modmail and some of the removed content, and this narrative is already spreading pretty fast.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:00 AM
Removal reasons are great for coaching an active community but I don't think we should rush into it because we are being pressured. It's ok if people decide they don't like us. Our numbers are strong and still growing.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:01 AM
It's all gonna be ok. It's important to not reactively mod.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:01 AM
My philosophy generally boils down to: Reddit is free. [LABOR]reform doesn't cost anything. We aren't a product. They aren't a customer. We're volunteers. We don't owe anyone anything just because they're upset.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:02 AM
Also, hopefully narratives are always spreading. If we are doing stuff right, we will be attacked non-stop. This is what people mean when they say all press is good press.
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"Not Us, Me" can you grant automod access? Not at computer yet
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:03 AM
Ill log in
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 10:03 AM
From a normal redditors perspective, it can be quite frustrating to see content removed from a subreddit you enjoy without some clarification. At least that's the approach I'm seeing it
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:04 AM
I understand.
"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" i cant add those perms, dont have permission to
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:04 AM
Yeah it's a pain point. We'll get there.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:04 AM
Gotta be you
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 10:04 AM
Ok. When I'm at desktop will handle
My [REDACTED: PII]
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 10:05 AM
Hell yea
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:30 AM
I think we should make a huge mega thread for all these partisian/meta content, what are y'alls thoughts on this. This way people can still talk, and the main feed can actually be about [LABOR] reform. I just feel too guilty removing content without an automod note to redirect them elsewhere.
My reasoning for the meta stuff is so people can vent and not have to spread unnecessary information outside the subreddit into others. People want to talk, and simply removing it I think only compounds the issues. The more we try to remove or ignore it, the more people will talk about it (similar to anyone trying to tell others to not do something or deleting something off the internet, it makes it worse). I think reverse psychology is a better approach, and it leads to more transparency others can chime in without putting all the pressure on us to remediate information. (edited)
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 11:36 AM
The more we try to remove or ignore it, the more people will talk about it
In my experience, the inverse is true. If we let people talk about something that generates polarized reactions, there's a cascading effect. They'll want to talk about it more. They'll comment on the commentary then comment on the commentary about the original comment and it'll just continue in an endless feedback loop of unproductive discussion. Not opposed to discussion threads, but I am opposed to discussion threads specifically for people who want to post things that are against our subreddit's rules.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:37 AM
it's already happening here though, and more so outside the subreddit, that's why a megathread can be useful.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 11:38 AM
The reason rule 8 exists is because partisan political opinions are divisive to the community right now. We need to let it die back so we can eventually get rid of the rule entirely.
That's my big hope: if we get people off their partisan high horses and set the tone a bit better, we can stop enforcing that entirely.
That's my take at least.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:39 AM
There needs to be an automod rule about this then, because people are not reading the rules we're trying to enforce without some explanation.
Without some heads up on why their content was removed, they're going to keep proliferating the stuff we don't want, especially since a lot of people aren't aware their content is being removed.
All the moderation we've been doing has only been postponing what's on people's minds, they need a clear explanation as to why it's not productive, on an individual level with each removal. There has been no feedback from us to the community about transparency, something this sub is trying to distinguish and be better about from r/saltedhash1625329382. (edited)
At least that's my personal opinion and suggestion.
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I think we should make a huge mega thread for all these partisian/meta content, what are y'alls thoughts on this. This way people can still talk, and the main feed can actually be about [LABOR] reform. I just feel too guilty removing content without an automod note to redirect them elsewhere.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 11:55 AM
That's like the opposite of what we should do, imo. It won't get siloed, it will just spawn a lot more partisan content. (edited)
If people feel the need to vent about the subreddit, maybe they should leave the subreddit
People don't need to give input on everything we do
If we are making megathreads for partisan arguing, we're going to get a ton more of it
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That's like the opposite of what we should do, imo. It won't get siloed, it will just spawn a lot more partisan content. (edited)
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:56 AM
I can understand that, but the removal reasons should be made clear, it's a bit antiproductive since the subreddit's logo even says "transparency is key."
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 11:57 AM
Yeah, we will be building out more removal reasons with time.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 11:57 AM
I don't think we should be the ones calling these shots and dictating basic conversations the community wants to have. And if we do I think ethically we really need to try to be transparent. We aren't gods.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:57 AM
Some basic explanation should be sufficient though for the time being imo.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 11:58 AM
The community members having these conversations are overwhelmingly doing so in good faith.
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I don't think we should be the ones calling these shots and dictating basic conversations the community wants to have. And if we do I think ethically we really need to try to be transparent. We aren't gods.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 11:58 AM
Moderators are calling the shots because that's how it works. Some transparency is good. People are always going to call for more.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:59 AM
We've spoken nothing about our moderation style so far, it's making people uneasy, and restless if this is a community worth participating in.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 11:59 AM
Looks like tons of people are participating.
And some small minority is complaining loudly.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 11:59 AM
Yes but the community did not request us to be its moderators and the original moderators promised something very different. I feel we should at least respect that or find alignment.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 11:59 AM
Transparency is still key
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 12:00 PM
And to be clear I still feel we all have similar common end goals
But how we get there and how we are inclusive of other's thoughts -- including others not in the moderation discord -- is where I think we have room for healthy discussion.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:01 PM
I don't totally agree to the level [REDACTED: THE ORIGINAL MODS] were inciting so freely, but it made people feel understood about the direction the mods had going, it gave some indication about moderating styles. (edited)
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 12:02 PM
Those mods are gone. They are gone in part because they were promising things they couldn't deliver & things that reddit communities aren't really able to do.
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Moderators are calling the shots because that's how it works. Some transparency is good. People are always going to call for more.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 12:02 PM
I agree this is in the end how things work in the end objectively. But that doesn't mean we can't do things differently both through how we build the mod team to be diverse of mindset or how we choose to action those that fall out of line.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 12:03 PM
Yeah, we're gonna do right by all these people
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:03 PM
The only feedback the community has gotten from us so far about moderation was a short post made two days ago, the rest has been silent removals.
I'm just trying to look at it from their perspective, and this is the 4th day so far
We may be putting in a lot of effort, but it's going unheard for this very reason.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 12:05 PM
There are rules on the sidebar. The sidebar has been fleshed out. Mod comments have been made.
Not bad for day 4, imo
Obviously lots of stuff left to do.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:06 PM
It's still important to provide direct user feedback
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 12:07 PM
The sidebar was not aligned on by the community. And frankly I'm not sure I agree with it either so I'm not convinced it was aligned upon by the mod team either, I feel it was just posted in a "here is what we're doing" sort of way.
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It's still important to provide direct user feedback
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 12:07 PM
That's a good idea. I'll think more about it as I dedicate my hours to building the community and laying in good mod structure this week.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:08 PM
We can tell them everything about our intentions, but it's important for them to come to those conclusions based on the actions we choose, and so far the lack of clear action (silent removals) is what we're communicating.
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We can tell them everything about our intentions, but it's important for them to come to those conclusions based on the actions we choose, and so far the lack of clear action (silent removals) is what we're communicating.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 12:09 PM
Exactly. Our thoughts are rational. The community is rational. Let's treat them like rational adults. At least let's bias towards doing that even if we cannot always be transparent, rather than biasing toward a defensive opaqueness.
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That's a good idea. I'll think more about it as I dedicate my hours to building the community and laying in good mod structure this week.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:09 PM
I'm still waiting to get automod permissions, in my mod application I mentioned how I'm familiar with complex regex and even maintain a bot.
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 12:10 PM
Ping ["Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now"], i dont have the perms.
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 12:10 PM
This movement is bigger than us. It has to be. And if we succeed it will go beyond our sub. We need to focus on being inclusive to others who are as excited as we are to enact change, not a building a community that is easy to moderate.
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This movement is bigger than us. It has to be. And if we succeed it will go beyond our sub. We need to focus on being inclusive to others who are as excited as we are to enact change, not a building a community that is easy to moderate.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:17 PM
I think it's okay if we make mistakes here and there, and get criticism, that only gives us more room to listen, to improve, and adjust the features here in r/W.rk.R.frm. Things don't have to roll out perfectly, users want transparent feedback from us. Not directly communicating is communicating the wrong impression, which is why the fall out in r/saltedhash3090774004 went down.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 12:19 PM
Noted. We hear you. We have the luxury of being able to mod slow and take well thought out, deliberate actions here. I'm [REDACTED, LIFE STUFF] but will be online later.
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Noted. We hear you. We have the luxury of being able to mod slow and take well thought out, deliberate actions here. I'm [REDACTED, LIFE STUFF] but will be online later.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 12:20 PM
let me know when you're able to give wiki permissions. I'll spend quite a bit of time sorting out all the mod que stuff, at the moment it's a catchall clogging up the feed, users can report rule violations that we can add to fine tune automod. (edited)
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 01:06 PM
I removed this
Comments are pretty good tho
But I think I'mma leave it removed
Falls under meta post
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"A Tough, Sturdy Animal" 30-Jan-22 01:12 PM
"Just because there is turbulence doesn't mean the plane is going down." I love this quote.
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"A Succulent Peyote" 30-Jan-22 02:39 PM
I'm a bit busy at the moment, but some random person is trying to make an unofficial r/W.rk.R.frm discord [REDACTED]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 30-Jan-22 06:57 PM
Hey this got let through once yesterday or the day before I think: https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]
0 votes and 5 comments so far on Reddit
It's currently on front page of r/saltedhash1625329382
I've been reluctant to approve it again
my thots: pros: the fact that outside forces are organizing to counteract us is highly legitimizing cons: may work up the community and get them in a witch hunty mood
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DELTA 30-Jan-22 08:12 PM
Mod queue finally cleared out. Had stuff from over 24 hours ago, including many from a few bad actors that deserved to be banned days ago. Mod mail cleared out except for a few I left for the senior mods. Signing off for the weekend. Happy Sunday!
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"Not Us, Me" 30-Jan-22 08:20 PM
Approved but dont love
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 06:10 AM
is this something that was ever actually promised? https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 06:15 AM
The original mod team did
Or really just the founder i think
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 07:06 AM
this is a candidate running for Congress in CA-9. He did an AMA on [PROGRESSIVE_SUB]. Is this allowed on /r/W.rk.R.frm? https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST FROM POLITICIAN]
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:07 AM
I'd let it through. A candidate for congress posting to sub is legitimizing.
"Not Us, Me" think we should flair him?
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 07:07 AM
Maybe post a link to his ama in a sticky?
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:08 AM
Hmm. I like the idea but we haven't really defined the relationship that [LABOR]reform has with [PROGRESSIVE_SUB]/[BERNIE_SUB] yet. So I'm βš–οΈ
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 07:08 AM
I'd be in favor of doing that even if he didn't do the AMA on [PROGRESSIVE_SUB]
but that's a good point
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:09 AM
I think I am going to flair him. The community might be interested in knowing he's running & have questions or feedback
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Unless anyone thinks that's an outright not good idea
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 07:13 AM
I think its fine to sticky his AMA
Chima is savvy
On our side
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Chima is savvy
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 07:14 AM
the fact that he's here proves that
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 07:14 AM
Exactly
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:14 AM
You're right. Good call
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 07:14 AM
Like, we want politicians kowtowing to workers and this is that
I think WR's structure should remain loose. My study of poor people's movements has led me to strongly belueve in "movements" over "mass membership orgs"
Like, we have used our mod powers to bat away a lot of unproductive stuff that was happening, but other than that, letting the community halfway run wild is likely to yield more wildcat action, which is historically the more effective agents of change
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Not letting it devolve into R vs D is probably one of the things that makes it incredibly dangerous to existing power structures, bc we have taken away the primary divide and conquer tool of American power elite
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:21 AM
That definitely has been one of the community's bigger pain points. Any time we let something through that talks about partisan divide, it inspires more posts about the partisan divide, which inspires more posts about the partisan divide
Just makes reaching our goals that much more difficult.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 07:23 AM
knock it down if I'm overstepping
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:27 AM
Looks great
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 07:38 AM
Literally shaking over how good it looks
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 07:51 AM
crying
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 08:31 AM
is this in line with the no-politics rules? I mean fuck [REDACTED - POLITICIAN] but this feels like a distraction https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED - POST ABOUT POLITICIAN]
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also the article is from 2019
yeah I'm going to remove
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 08:36 AM
I went back and forth on it but am 100% good with removal
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 08:37 AM
I was back and forth too until I realized the article was old
easy to not notice with just the headline
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 08:37 AM
ahh yeah good call
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 31-Jan-22 08:41 AM
We have a tool on /r/saltedhash3939845695 which can pick up the dates on articles and auto-remove -- would we wanna use that here?
Anything two months or older gets removed by automod but we can change it to a year or something
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 08:42 AM
I don't think every old article should be auto-removed but stuff framed as being topical and current should still be that
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DELTA 31-Jan-22 08:45 AM
Yes, the original mods (including me) all thought it was a good idea and told that to the people.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 10:12 AM
lol [REDACTED COMPANY] appears to be trying to hire our users https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/[REDACTED]
yes sir I am a real account I promise
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 31-Jan-22 10:13 AM
The account is 14 minutes old lmao
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 10:16 AM
gotta respect the hustle
some digital marketer somewhere is getting some corporate goodboy points
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"I'm just here so I won't get fined" 31-Jan-22 10:16 AM
Wonder how many he needs before he can buy a nice plate of corporate tendies
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 10:16 AM
getting subreddit banned points too
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 10:17 AM
y'all are giving me the giggles this morning
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lol [REDACTED COMPANY] appears to be trying to hire our users https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]
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"I'VE GOT THE POWAH" 31-Jan-22 10:26 AM
Looks like something you'd find on /r/saltedhash2194979021 in a bear market lmao
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:54 AM
I reapproved this. Don't think it should have been removed.
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 10:55 AM
I'm pretty sure this post has been let through a few times already
It's been on the front page of antiwork so more community interest in it / lots of people posting it
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 10:55 AM
I've removed it a lot today
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:58 AM
i love it so much
im almost down to pin it
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It's been on the front page of antiwork so more community interest in it / lots of people posting it
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 10:58 AM
ahhhh, has it? interesting
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 10:59 AM
I've also been a little bit unsure about the content itself. Galvanizing for the community, but it may also breed distrust. I could be wrong about that though
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 11:20 AM
Yeah, ackshually, after walking off for a minute -- I myself have 0 desire to beef w r/saltedhash1625329382
I didn't approach this that way, but that's what it would foster, coming from our WR community
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DELTA 31-Jan-22 11:49 AM
There's a post in modmail asking when the voting process for mods will be. It was deleted. Since I didn't delete it, I'm leaving it for the senior mods. We should set a date and announce, and explain what has to happen between now and then to justify the delay.
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 12:32 PM
Modqueue looking good.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 12:36 PM
I'm not sure this is a productive post: https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED]
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 12:36 PM
Im goood with killin that
I approved it in part bc itd already been approved and didnt feel tooooo unprooductive and im trying to take a loose hand with community, but if 2 of us suspect its unproductive, im 100% good w killin it
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 12:37 PM
I pretty quickly thought it was unproductive because it specifically mentions former mods and also just generally witch-hunti-ness
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 12:38 PM
There was a really difficult time in SandersForPresident's past, around 2017/2018, where because Democrats made Russian meddling a campaign plank, any time there was a disagreement in comments, they accused one another of being paid Russian plants. I would like to avoid that kind of infighting here - that notion that "there are impostors among us."
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 12:38 PM
Really sows the seeds of mistrust
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 12:38 PM
Even if there are impostors among us, dealing with it is our problem, not theirs.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 01:08 PM
would normally knock this without much thought for even mentioning antiwork, but OP is just linking their thread there and the context isn't inflammatory. Leaning allow but would like a second opinion https://old.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: WORKPLACE BULLYING]
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"Not Us, Me" 31-Jan-22 01:10 PM
I'd say leave a comment asking them to remove links to other communities? Would normally be fine w it but really dont want drama w antiwork at all.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 01:14 PM
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 01:15 PM
We're stepping away from "Transparency is key" as a mantra I think
diggin the creative energy though
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 01:18 PM
Hey /u/saltedhash1385618285! Loving the creative energy! Send us a modmail and maybe we can use this.
maybe offer him other suggestions to put in the ribbon
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"Look At Me, I'm The Captain Now" 31-Jan-22 01:19 PM
Think probably light touch on it. Can leave it approved
or removed
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 01:21 PM
alright, I'll go ahead and leave it up. err on the side of light touch
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 01:39 PM
DELTA I think the fact that OP reached out and acted respectfully should be enough evidence that they're not an agitator, but wanted to bring it up here before letting their post through. https://mod.rexxit.cxm/mail/all/[REDACTED] https://www.rexxit.cxm/r/W.rk.R.frm/comments/[REDACTED: POST ABOUT MANAGEMENT ABUSE]
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DELTA 31-Jan-22 01:40 PM
Yeah, I'm cool with it. I actually approved it but figured I should uphold the rule. But if you want to approve it, cool.
I usually err on the side of not exposing automod rules because that tells people how to get around them -- they'll slightly change the words, or just create a bunch of accounts and wait for them to hit four days. But yeah, this post definitely looks legit.
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DELTA 31-Jan-22 01:55 PM
I approved the post and replied to OP.
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"Like the crack of the whip, I *Snap* attack" 31-Jan-22 01:58 PM
Thanks for getting that DELTA, I had to step away after I asked